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w neal

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Now that "we" have the FEF tooling...
« on: December 29, 2014, 04:51:28 PM »
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What other models could Kato make with this axle spacing?Anything? I don't speak much steam. Just wondering... Thanks.
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Re: Now that "we" have the FEF tooling...
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2014, 05:57:17 PM »
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darn near any late 4-8-4.

the problem is that they all will need just enough changes
that Kato can't slap a different road name on it and call it done.

drivers, smokebox faces, and tenders are a little variable...


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Re: Now that "we" have the FEF tooling...
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2014, 12:00:40 PM »
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Well yeah. New shells and what not. Figured that.

What I'm wondering is - how much new frame tooling will have to be made to address any new steam of this wheel arrangement. Could new shells be made for this frame without having to worry about axle spacing?

If so, booyah!
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Re: Now that "we" have the FEF tooling...
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2014, 12:07:17 PM »
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What other models could Kato make with this axle spacing?Anything? I don't speak much steam. Just wondering... Thanks.

http://morphotoarchive.org/rvndb/rvnjpeg_img_rec.php?objno=RVN09497   :trollface:
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Re: Now that "we" have the FEF tooling...
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2014, 01:12:12 PM »
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http://morphotoarchive.org/rvndb/rvnjpeg_img_rec.php?objno=RVN09497   :trollface:

Isn't this a tread about locomotives that could be made from the FEF? Why did you post another FEF picture?

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Re: Now that "we" have the FEF tooling...
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2014, 01:36:54 PM »
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Isn't this a tread about locomotives that could be made from the FEF? Why did you post another FEF picture?

 :?

Did you follow the link?
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Re: Now that "we" have the FEF tooling...
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2014, 02:02:11 PM »
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hi  w neal,

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2656218

railpictures for an RF&P 4-8-4 General...

I was not kidding.  after about 1935...
4-8-4 engines were about 80 inch driver (NYCS Niagara was 79)and closely spaced. 
big general purpose engines. 
timkin 4 aces, dixie, fef, pocono, potomac, wyoming, greenbriar ...

they all had different details too...

a side note about the "northern" name.
no company operating in the south and east of the Barely United States
was ever going to burnish their rails with a loco called a "Northern."

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Re: Now that "we" have the FEF tooling...
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2014, 03:37:02 PM »
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:?

Did you follow the link?

Yes. I should have added a  :trollface: at the end. I was trying to imply that they looked the same and your locomotive was an obvious next model, even though it isn't.

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Re: Now that "we" have the FEF tooling...
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2014, 04:42:14 PM »
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hi  w neal,

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2656218

railpictures for an RF&P 4-8-4 General...

I was not kidding.  after about 1935...
4-8-4 engines were about 80 inch driver (NYCS Niagara was 79)and closely spaced. 
big general purpose engines. 
timkin 4 aces, dixie, fef, pocono, potomac, wyoming, greenbriar ...

they all had different details too...

a side note about the "northern" name.
no company operating in the south and east of the Barely United States
was ever going to burnish their rails with a loco called a "Northern."

victor

It's interesting how much of the Kato shell is made up of snap-together parts.  One wonders . . . A design to accommodate future non-UP variations?

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Re: Now that "we" have the FEF tooling...
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2014, 05:16:59 PM »
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It's interesting how much of the Kato shell is made up of snap-together parts.  One wonders . . . A design to accommodate future non-UP variations?

John C.

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Re: Now that "we" have the FEF tooling...
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2014, 08:49:22 PM »
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I do not know much about crossheads, valve gear, etc., so I have a question for those of you who have that knowledge.

So, we have the KATO FEF-3, right, well is the mechanism made up of "close enough" parts to morph into an ATS 3751. or 2926 that is being rebuilt in Albuquerque? ? If so, I best get my paws on another FEF. Oh Jason.

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Re: Now that "we" have the FEF tooling...
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2014, 09:01:29 PM »
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find a photo and compare them?

I think you can slap a hudson tender back there and call it done.

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Re: Now that "we" have the FEF tooling...
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2015, 12:33:21 AM »
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Please let a SF 2900 or 3751 be in the works...

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Re: Now that "we" have the FEF tooling...
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2015, 10:34:00 AM »
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I wouldn't get hopes up too high. Kato has done what? 3 North American steamers since they entered the US Market back in the late 80's? (I'm leaving out the ones they did for Concor.)

I hope Kato does more though. :D
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Re: Now that "we" have the FEF tooling...
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2015, 10:41:41 AM »
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I wouldn't get hopes up too high. Kato has done what? 3 North American steamers since they entered the US Market back in the late 80's? (I'm leaving out the ones they did for Concor.

I hope Kato does more though. :D

Maybe, but I can't see Kato letting this mechanism "go to waste" so-to-speak.  Yes, they will do at least one more run of UP, maybe in different versions like the GS-4, but given the ability to use the basic mechanism for a bunch of 4-8-4's and the overall engineering that went into producing it, I've got to believe there will be other releases down the road. 

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