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CP Boxcar-to-woodchip car conversion help
« on: September 05, 2014, 12:41:07 PM »
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In the late 70s and early 80s, the Canadian Pacific undertook the conversion of a fleet of 40' boxcars into woodchip cars.  In doing so, they replaced the doors.  I found a pic online of one modeler's effort at modeling this -



But I'm looking for a proto detail photo of this door design for my own reference, to see how simplified the model is.  Does anyone know where I can find such a pic?
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Re: CP Boxcar-to-woodchip car conversion help
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2014, 01:08:02 PM »
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Re: CP Boxcar-to-woodchip car conversion help
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2014, 04:52:36 PM »
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That particular image's the only proto photo I've been able to find and the quality is too low.  I was hoping someone might know of others.
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Re: CP Boxcar-to-woodchip car conversion help
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2014, 01:11:43 AM »
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There's another one here:
http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cp31466&o=cprail

It's a little bigger, and a different angle, which may help.  Looking on all three of my usual photo sites that's the only other good picture I could find.  The one Kisatchie linked to is also on the Canadian Freight Car site, as well as a few other cars, but those pictures are no better.
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Re: CP Boxcar-to-woodchip car conversion help
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2014, 09:08:18 AM »
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Frustrating.  I want to get a better sense of how the doors are constructed and their hardware details, like latches, hinges and rivets (oh my). 

I'm driving up into Montana and on to Kaslo, BC in October; does anyone know if one of these cars may still be in existence and in that area, that I could photograph?
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Re: CP Boxcar-to-woodchip car conversion help
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2014, 11:55:55 AM »
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Frustrating.  I want to get a better sense of how the doors are constructed and their hardware details, like latches, hinges and rivets (oh my). 

I'm driving up into Montana and on to Kaslo, BC in October; does anyone know if one of these cars may still be in existence and in that area, that I could photograph?

This one is better; extended side car but has been fitted with the same style door. The texture of the weathering here suggests that the chip door is actually wood.

http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cp31201&o=cprail

I have the print for this so I can re-scan it a bit larger if needed.

There used to also be a good pic of railcarphotos, and I saved a copy of it while it was there, but for some reason it seems to have gone away.

These old 40' cars are all completely long gone. These boxcars were mainly used in Ontario as well, based around Chapleau and Marathon. I don't believe any cars like this were used in BC; rebuilt 52' gons were used. The extended height cars were initially used in Maine/New Brunswick and were rebuilt with 8' chip doors, but eventually some or all of them migrated into northern Ontario service with the later converted cars without the extended sides (like those pictured here so far) - I have one photo (not mine) that shows a mix of these cars together in a cut; but a fuzzy one from a fair distance. Not real great for reference other than proving their coexistence.

BTW, that model in the initial post is mine, so feel free to ask questions either here or on my blog post where I'm sure you found the above image.

http://vanderheide.ca/blog/2014/03/03/cp-woodchip-boxcar-6-chip-doors/

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Re: CP Boxcar-to-woodchip car conversion help
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2014, 12:00:29 PM »
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