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Not everything is fitting together right yet, but here is my first runthrough of the first module:







I'll post pics of the the second runthrough (Concrete on brick) in a week or two. This kit should be ready by the end of September.
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Looks like the windows should be set in a little bit more for a brick building.

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Looks like the windows should be set in a little bit more for a brick building.

Yes, I thought I would try using 1/64" thick frames for the windows so they would be more noticeable. Way too thick. On the next try the frames will be 1/100". If that still doesn't look right I might have to design it so you can put them in from behind.
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I might have to design it so you can put them in from behind.


I think that would be desired regardless.
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The brick work is looking great!!!

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The brick work is looking great!!!

Thanks! I am still working on the mortar technique, but I think I got it right on wall on the roof part.



I think that would be desired regardless.

Oh. Ha! Right...that wasn't very clear. On my grain elevator kits, the whole window is placed in the wall from the front.





I'm saying I might have to do the opposite, so that the window frames are glued to the back of inside of the siding. This would be kind of a pain to redesign. We'll see after my second attempt.
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Looking good. Those windows would make a nice separate addition to your catalog. Hint. Hint.
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Looking good. Those windows would make a nice separate addition to your catalog. Hint. Hint.

I had someone else suggest this. I need to research how others do it. Just sell sheets of one size window with frame and glazing?
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I love what you're doing with this project, and very much appreciate the updates. Keep 'em coming!

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Windows in masonry, especially those honkin' big industrial cathedral windows, are bolted into a hole in the brick, basically.  There's no moulding inside or out to hold the casing into the structure.  There has to be depth so there's enough masonry material to bolt the darn things in, so there has to be depth. 

Aside from the window issue already brought up, I think you need to tweak the structure's corners so they're not so awfully misaligned.  It's probably easier to do on the concrete version of this structure).  You might also consider designing the windows to offer the builder the option of modeling some of the windows in the open position.  Also, how does the smoke stack connect to the back of this building?  Or does that part come with the smoke stack module?

BTW, check your PM regarding the interior detail.

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Re: Sugar Beet Refinery: Rough Draft of First Module; brick on brick version
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2014, 04:08:18 PM »
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Windows in masonry, especially those honkin' big industrial cathedral windows, are bolted into a hole in the brick, basically.  There's no moulding inside or out to hold the casing into the structure.  There has to be depth so there's enough masonry material to bolt the darn things in, so there has to be depth. 

Aside from the window issue already brought up, I think you need to tweak the structure's corners so they're not so awfully misaligned.  It's probably easier to do on the concrete version of this structure).  You might also consider designing the windows to offer the builder the option of modeling some of the windows in the open position.  Also, how does the smoke stack connect to the back of this building?  Or does that part come with the smoke stack module?

BTW, check your PM regarding the interior detail.

I could put the windows on the very back; I guess we'll see if it looks too deep. I could make the walls thinner, I just worry about warpage.

The misalignment was what I was the least happy about. While I was building it, I could tell the corners were going to be bad, so I have already made the adjustments for trial number 2. Even so, the lighting makes it look a lot worse than it really is because of the shadowing.

The windows on the prototype are so dilapidated I couldn't tell how the windows would have opened. I'll have to do some research.

Smoke stack is free standing. I'll leave that up to the modeler to decide where and how to connect it. On my layout it is simply placed between the two buildings. I haven't decided about which module to include it with.
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Re: Sugar Beet Refinery: Rough Draft of First Module; brick on brick version
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2014, 08:43:14 PM »
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The windows on the prototype are so dilapidated I couldn't tell how the windows would have opened. I'll have to do some research.

I noticed that too.  It looks almost like they're top pull downs, with the small 4-pane sash on top being the opening component, which kinda makes sense in an industrial situation.  Those large windows look like groupings of smaller windows units, with two rows of 4 paners for opening.  It's just a hunch though.  Like you said, hard t tell from the condition.  That video I linked may provide some clues?
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Re: Sugar Beet Refinery: Rough Draft of First Module; brick on brick version
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2014, 08:54:47 PM »
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I noticed that too.  It looks almost like they're top pull downs, with the small 4-pane sash on top being the opening component, which kinda makes sense in an industrial situation.  Those large windows look like groupings of smaller windows units, with two rows of 4 paners for opening.  It's just a hunch though.  Like you said, hard t tell from the condition.  That video I linked may provide some clues?

Rather than redesigning all the windows, what about including two sets of windows and frames? The the modeler could decide to keep it simple, or cut up what they wanted to make open sections. brainstorming
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