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historians- wierd couplers
« on: May 19, 2014, 09:11:36 AM »
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I'm familiar with this early Arnold loco.

But I've never seen those couplers before.

Anybody know anything about them?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-ARNOLD-RAPIDO-200-UNION-PACIFIC-UP-130-DIESEL-N-SCALE-STREAMLINER-/261484137781?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item3ce1ab4d35

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Re: historians- wierd couplers
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2014, 09:33:40 AM »
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Looks like an HO scale "Kup-EZE" - but I was not aware they came in N-scale....

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Re: historians- wierd couplers
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2014, 10:07:01 AM »
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So this is the style of coupler that appeared on the very early Lone Star "Trebel-o-Lectric" line of 9 mm gauge trains. I don't know what (if anything) they are known as...

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Re: historians- wierd couplers
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2014, 10:13:01 AM »
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I our youthful ignorance we called them loop-hooks. A friend had a few. :|
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Re: historians- wierd couplers
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2014, 11:00:16 AM »
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So this is the style of coupler that appeared on the very early Lone Star "Trebel-o-Lectric" line of 9 mm gauge trains. I don't know what (if anything) they are known as...

Harry

Sort of, although not exactly the same.



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Re: historians- wierd couplers
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2014, 11:02:26 AM »
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They look to me like HP Products TT scale couplers. I actually dabbled in that scale very briefly in the mid 70's, and all my HP stuff had those couplers...

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Re: historians- wierd couplers
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2014, 11:28:27 AM »
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I was only familiar with three couplers on this loco.

The original was the sideways V coupler.
The second was a Rapido with a spike on it so that cars with the old V couplers could couple to it.
The third was a typical Rapido that we all know and love (hate) without the spike.

I've never seen this one before.

It is sort of similar to the Lone Star coupler, but not the same.

I wonder if this might somehow predate the V coupler??
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Re: historians- wierd couplers
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2014, 12:43:01 PM »
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My guess is that they're not the original couplers. But that's just speculation on my part.

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Re: historians- wierd couplers
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2014, 05:24:30 PM »
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 :|          They are not the original coupler's, my locomotive which was painted NH that I repainted to UP had the V couplers. What this locomotive has been retrofitted with are Mantua HO Hook & Loop couplers which I had to use on my Teenage HO layout because Kadee HO Couplers would not work on my sharp curves when applied even to shorty Globe/ Athearn passenger cars, so my passenger cars received these except for one end of my RPO which had a moveable dummy coupler that hand coupled to the dummy couplers on my Athearn /Revell UP F-7 diesels. My freight cars used the good old XF2 coupler except for a conversion car with a dummy at one end if I ran the UP diesels. If I ran the Athearn Rio Grande  (rubber band drive) F-7 A-B locos they had XF2 couplers. My Mantua Kit Built 2-8-2 had a dummy coupler on the tender and my Brass SP 4-6-2 later brush painted flat black by me (ECCH !) also had a dummy coupler. To repeat  in closing those are Mantua HO Hook  Loop couplers.

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Re: historians- wierd couplers
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2014, 05:50:40 PM »
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Upon further review, they look like a hack to me. The front one doesn't even match the back one (note the height of the "hooks" relative to the "loops").



Maybe some intrepid soul wanted to use it to pull some Lone Star cars?

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« Last Edit: May 19, 2014, 05:55:19 PM by spookshow »

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Re: historians- wierd couplers
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2014, 06:02:32 PM »
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The Rapido "Baldwin" I owned came with Rapido couplers. They were fixed to the trucks, not box mounted, as I recall.
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Re: historians- wierd couplers
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2014, 06:03:31 PM »
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Wow, that all sucks.

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Re: historians- wierd couplers
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2014, 06:20:19 PM »
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Cheers,
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I like how it looks like they used a variety of Legos for the tooling on the sides of that thing.
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Re: historians- wierd couplers
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2014, 06:51:17 PM »
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The original was the sideways V coupler.
The second was a Rapido with a spike on it so that cars with the old V couplers could couple to it.
The third was a typical Rapido that we all know and love (hate) without the spike.

First -



Second -



Third -



I stand by my assessment that this eBay thing is not stock.

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Re: historians- wierd couplers
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2014, 06:56:38 PM »
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I like how it looks like they used a variety of Legos for the tooling on the sides of that thing.

Meh, these weren't much more than kid's toys back in the early 60's. Applying Railwire "standards" to them at this point in history seems a bit silly to me  :facepalm:

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-Mark
« Last Edit: May 19, 2014, 07:00:02 PM by spookshow »