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The Pennsylvania Railroad had 550 R50b high speed express reefers, numbered 2551-3100. They were 54'6" long and rode on PRR standard 4-wheel cast steel, friction bearing, 2D-P5 passenger trucks. The R50b reefers were used in express service from 1929 well into the mid¬60s, with a few remaining cars taken out of service just prior to the 1967 merger.

Express service was not limited to refrigerated goods. When not needed for refrigerator duties, the ice bunkers were collapsed and these cars carried dry, clean express shipments. For express service, their useable load capacity made them interchangeable with X-29s. Clean express commodities such as magazines would be shipped across the country in these cars, making them regulars on trains of other railroads.

In June of 1957, the ice bunkers removed from PRR 2500-2507 so they could be used only for express service.
 
As delivered R50b reefers: Passenger (P) car appliances (Approximate Time Period: [ATP] 1929-1944)
Originally, the car appliances were similar to those on passenger cars (P), with no roofwalk, ladder on the right side, and minimal side grabs. During the time period up to 1936, all of the lettering styles were gold. By June of 1944, all of these cars had been rebuilt with freight car appliances (F).

Rebuilt R50b reefers: Freight (F) car appliances (ATP: 1938-1967)
Beginning in 1938 and through June 1944, 548 R50b reefers were rebuilt with freight car appliances (F). This rebuilt freight appliance version of the car is represented by the kit.



The R50b reefers were rebuilt with standard freight car appliances by changing the following:
– adding side ladders
– changing to a single-sill step type
– moving the end ladders to the left side
– moving the brake wheel
– adding a brake platform
– adding a platform above the end ladders
– adding a defect card holder
– modifying handholds
– adding a pressure retaining valve
 
The “freight appliance” version of these cars were decorated in 11 different schemes with buff (delux yellow) colored lettering as described in the tables. Lettering placement was the same for all schemes. Refer to the pictures for more information.




Painted in Buff Futura (not edged) scheme BFT1 (ATP: 1939-1952)

With some effort, this kit could also be modified to represent the original (P) or modified passenger (P2) appliance rebuild.

Rebuilt R50b reefers: Passenger (P2) appliances (Approx. 50-60 cars)
In June of 1952, a revised car arrangement drawing was issued, and it indicated that the roofwalk and side ladders be removed, limiting cars to passenger express service. The issue also seems to have called for the removal of all the freight car safety appliances (P2). A year later the drawing was revised to no longer remove all the freight car safety appliances, so the end ladders and brake wheels remained in their "freight car" position. Only about 10% of the fleet had been converted, so most cars went to the scrap line with the side ladders and roofwalks in place.

Note: The estimated numbers of cars in a given style/scheme are for reference purposes only based on the formulae in the footnotes and standard repainting practices used by some railroads. Actual historical data and PRR references may provide more detailed and accurate information.
Pre-war lettering and paint schemes: 1936 to 1941


Modern Block lettering and paint schemes: 1943 to 1962


References and Thanks:
A special thanks to Steve Hoxie from the Keystone Modeler (TKM) for his assistance. The two TKM issues are excellent resource material for detailing the HO R50B from Walthers, and certainly would be of use to the modeler making this kit. The Railmodel Journal (RMJ) articles are also an excellent source for painting and detailing information.

TKM #25 Aug ’05: Upgrading the Walthers R50B, A PRR Pro Project by Bruce Smith (Pg. 16)
TKM #26 Sep ’05: Updates and Errata (Pg. 10) R50B underside details (corrected image)
RMJ Apr ’03: Pennsy RR R50B Express Reefers from Walthers HO models by Richard Berg (Pg. 10)
RMJ Oct ’90: Pennsy Class R50B HO Scale Express Reefer by Bob Davis (Pg. 30)

Data compiled by Michael Livingston
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Re: Pennsylvania PRR R50b Express Reefer: Lettering and paint schemes
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2014, 09:22:57 PM »
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Great information Michael looking forward with held breath for ordering details. I would just love two for the first run.

Regards

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Re: Pennsylvania PRR R50b Express Reefer: Lettering and paint schemes
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2014, 09:34:55 PM »
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Available now!
Note: This unpainted N-Scale (1/160th) multimedia kit requires modeling skills to build. There are no instructions provided.
Limit two per household/Railwire account



Each kit includes the following:
1 x undecorated R50b reefer body shell
1 x brass photo etching with 12 brake wheels (for use on this and other projects)
2 x pewter PRR 2D-P5 trucks (new style with friction bearing journals)
1 x pewter under frame (with a cast on air cylinder)
1 x pewter brake assembly
1 x plastic strip roofwalk (to be trimmed to length)
1 x custom decal set for 11 paint schemes
(If your kit is missing a grab, a section of 0.10x0.10 in styrene will be included)

Also required to complete the car, (but not included in the kit)
• 4 x FVM (or similar) 36" Wheel with 0.553" axle wheel sets
• 2 x body mount couplers of your choice
• 2 x king pins (plastic or 0-80, 00-90 screws)
• Paint (see ZM20 in the GHQ N-scale forum)
• Tools: Hand drill, #11 X-acto knife, pin, Q-tips,
Micro-Sol™, Dull Cote™, "super glue," and a paint brush

For paint and decal information, please refer to prototype photos or the posting on Railwire:
https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=32623.0

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Updated for 2015: To order, watch for the eBay auctions and notifications on Railwire!

$45.95 each kit plus shipping (updated 2015 pricing)


Best regards,
Michael Livingston
Not a GHQ employee, just trying to get Gregg's cool stuff out to the rest of us!
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Re: Pennsylvania PRR R50b Express Reefer: Lettering and paint schemes
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2014, 10:07:11 PM »
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Two down.
Confirmation email received.

« Last Edit: April 11, 2014, 10:09:59 PM by Alwyn Cutmore »
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Re: Pennsylvania PRR R50b Express Reefer: Lettering and paint schemes
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2014, 08:36:23 AM »
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This is a good site to sort out the fooibies: A very handy tool if you are not totally up to speed on your coaches.

R50b is down the page a little.  Great pics of the walthers HO cars, note the comments.
http://pennsyrr.com/index.php/modeling/205-walthers-prr-passenger-car-models


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Re: Pennsylvania PRR R50b Express Reefer: Lettering and paint schemes
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2014, 09:16:23 PM »
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This is a good site to sort out the fooibies: A very handy tool if you are not totally up to speed on your coaches.

R50b is down the page a little.  Great pics of the walthers HO cars, note the comments.
http://pennsyrr.com/index.php/modeling/205-walthers-prr-passenger-car-models

Why thank you!  :P
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Re: Pennsylvania PRR R50b Express Reefer: Lettering and paint schemes
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2014, 09:37:31 PM »
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What are you doing on the N Scale site.  CONVERT!!!  :trollface:

Well deserved.  :D

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Re: Pennsylvania PRR R50b Express Reefer: Lettering and paint schemes
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2014, 11:19:47 AM »
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Re: Pennsylvania PRR R50b Express Reefer: Lettering and paint schemes
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2014, 08:06:22 AM »
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nevermind...found the info in above post with email address for ordering
ordered 2

yes!
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Re: Pennsylvania PRR R50b Express Reefer: Lettering and paint schemes
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2014, 02:21:42 AM »
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Not completely correct. Jerry is not coming back as he sold his Centipedes.  :D

http://youtu.be/iAX6NQjij7Q

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Re: Pennsylvania PRR R50b Express Reefer: Lettering and paint schemes
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2014, 09:58:13 AM »
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Not completely correct. Jerry is not coming back as he sold his Centipedes.  :D

http://youtu.be/iAX6NQjij7Q

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Re: Pennsylvania PRR R50b Express Reefer: Lettering and paint schemes
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2015, 04:05:29 PM »
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wondering what ever happened to these?

I see I had followed ordering process and ordered two cars
I also see that there was to be a follow up post when cars were sold out

do not recall ever receiving these...did the deal fall through...it is still active...is there a way to check up on or confirm orders?

thanks
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Re: Pennsylvania PRR R50b Express Reefer: Lettering and paint schemes
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2015, 07:32:47 PM »
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The run of 50 were sold out in the first day....
there's been no word on whether these will ever be done again
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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2015, 09:37:54 PM »
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late to the party again

lost out on the B60s
and the R50s

dang

oh well...

thanks for the update
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Re: Pennsylvania PRR R50b Express Reefer: Lettering and paint schemes
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2015, 10:24:03 PM »
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We are working on another run.
Maybe late May or June release.
Michael Livingston
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