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Early New York City street scene
« on: April 04, 2014, 10:56:26 AM »
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Find this scene facinating.  Lots of modeling possibilities for those doing this period.


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Re: Early New York City street scene
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2014, 11:19:55 AM »
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Look, a boxcab steam locomotive.
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Re: Early New York City street scene
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2014, 01:27:04 PM »
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Such "Steam Dummies" were quite common.  Supposedly, by making the locomotive look like a freight car, it wouldn't frighten the horses.  As horses have very good hearing, I doubt that it made much difference...

If you want a real oddity, and can find a copy of "Logging Railroads in Skagit County" by Dennis Thompson (NWSL, 1989), there's a doozy on page 6-145.  Imagine the outcry if a modeler powered his logging railroad with a steam dummy disguised as a trolley car!
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Re: Early New York City street scene
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2014, 01:55:39 PM »
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Those things always looked like a modeler's joke to me. Although very real, they seemed more like what a modeler on drugs might cobble together from leftovers in his spare parts box.
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Re: Early New York City street scene
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2014, 02:53:49 PM »
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they seemed more like what a modeler on drugs might cobble together from leftovers in his spare parts box.

so this is called an On30 modeler :trollface: :tommann:

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Re: Early New York City street scene
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2014, 03:47:41 PM »
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Re: Early New York City street scene
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2014, 01:08:21 AM »
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The Shay dummy, also in NYC, looked better from the side...
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Re: Early New York City street scene
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2014, 01:29:00 AM »
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Re: Early New York City street scene
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2014, 01:48:07 AM »
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Re: Early New York City street scene
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2014, 03:36:29 PM »
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I noticed that all of the freight cars in that train were Canadian.  Does anyone know if that was a coincidence or if there was that much freight coming in from Canada?
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Re: Early New York City street scene
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2014, 06:15:49 PM »
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I noticed that all of the freight cars in that train were Canadian.  Does anyone know if that was a coincidence or if there was that much freight coming in from Canada?

Probably whiskey! It was/is a very thirsty city.

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Re: Early New York City street scene
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2014, 06:34:21 PM »
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Did that actually help calm the horses?  I don't think they have the brain power to think "oh that's just another box car, not a locomotive!" they just see "loud moving object" and don't care about its shape.  Seems ridiculous.

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Re: Early New York City street scene
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2014, 06:51:37 PM »
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Re: Early New York City street scene
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2014, 02:19:51 AM »
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Baronjutter:  That was basically the railroads' opinion at the time.  No, a horse can't tell a locomotive from a boxcar, and wouldn't care anyway.  If it moves and makes noise, it's probably a predator, and they're going to avoid it. 
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Re: Early New York City street scene
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2014, 02:41:55 AM »
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I'm surprised they didn't paint reporting marks and other data on the loco's to further trick the horse into thinking it was a box car.  Perhaps paint a lower max weight on the box car so the horse believes it's smaller than it is.  Horses are dumb and can be easily tricked by such things clearly.