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New NW2 by Bachmann?
« on: July 19, 2013, 01:39:26 PM »
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The big news from Bachmann is the BIG EMMA, but somehow lost is the announcement of a new NW2... Say what? Don't we already have an excellent one from Kato?....so many other switchers to do and they pick this one..... :scared:
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Re: New NW2 by Bachmann?
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2013, 01:42:25 PM »
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Well MTL is doing an SW1500; and bachman already has the S-4.  The Kato one is nice, but I can;t remember when the last run was released.
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Re: New NW2 by Bachmann?
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2013, 01:48:33 PM »
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I think it's because the NW2 wheelbase and trucks are the same as the S-4 (or very, very close), so it was an easy "new" model. But that, of course, begs the question why Kato didn't do an S-2 or S-4. It will be interesting to compare, however, since based on my firsthand look at the S-4 I suspect the Bachmann mechanism is narrower, and therefore possibly addresses the noted problem of Kato hoods being a little "porky".

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Re: New NW2 by Bachmann?
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2013, 02:04:02 PM »
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Well MTL is doing an SW1500; and bachman already has the S-4.  The Kato one is nice, but I can;t remember when the last run was released.

I think that Kato delivered NW-2s in new schemes withing the past couple of months.
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Re: New NW2 by Bachmann?
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2013, 02:13:49 PM »
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We shall see how this turns out.
The original release of the Kato NW2 had quite the interesting drive system but it is a bit finicky if it gets overloaded or one isn't generally careful with it.
Depending on the price of the Bachmann model, it might make good kitbash fodder.


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Re: New NW2 by Bachmann?
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2013, 02:22:47 PM »
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I just saw the news and was just about to post a thread with the SAME title- when I saw yours.

Huh????

And it is even about the SAME phase as the Kato loco.  If they were going to do one, why not the LATE phase with the sloped but not stepped roof????

Personally, this might turn out OK since the Kato loco has gear slip issues,  but I would have been MORE excited if Bachmann had announced an MP15AC.
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Re: New NW2 by Bachmann?
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2013, 02:29:09 PM »
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Something looks odd to me , but I can't say for sure exactly what it is , other that the nose is glared out in the shot .



Serves all the West looks too big and stuff .

Number is way off . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMD_NW2

And the Kato



Looks wise Kato wins , performance wise is yet to be known , but I ain' going to buy to find out . I'll let somebody else bite and report the tastiness of it .
« Last Edit: July 19, 2013, 02:49:41 PM by up1950s »

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Re: New NW2 by Bachmann?
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2013, 02:35:08 PM »
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It's the fact that Bachmann's stuff has some strange quirks. Basically, with the windows and the doors.

Their windows always seem a little too big, and a little lacking on detail. The doors look really bad though, like someone milled a 3" panel gap around them all.

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Re: New NW2 by Bachmann?
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2013, 02:43:34 PM »
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I hear they're coming out with an N scale ALCO PA1 next year. :D

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Re: New NW2 by Bachmann?
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2013, 02:45:20 PM »
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Re: New NW2 by Bachmann?
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2013, 02:47:15 PM »
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Something looks odd to me , but I can't say for sure exactly what it is , other that the nose is glared out in the shot .




Here's a shot of the Kato unit, same ugly scheme...



Looks like the Bachmann model is just missing... details.  Well, that and the cab proportions are off.

Oh wait... here's the real thing to compare both to...



Hooray, now both N scale models of the NW2 are missing the louvers.   :trollface:
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Re: New NW2 by Bachmann?
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2013, 02:52:49 PM »
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Something looks odd to me , but I can't say for sure exactly what it is , other that the nose is glared out in the shot .



The problem is that it's Bachmann.  They have decided to forgo the hassle of using any sort of prototype drawings and instead, take someone else's model and give it to their designer to try and copy.

Off hand, I'd say the hood may be peaked too much and the radius of the transition from the top to the side is too small (the RS-3 has this same issue).

For sure the front windows of the cab don't extend down far enough.  And I can't tell if there are any latches on the top of the hood, but didn't really expect it based on their GP-7.

I'm also going to guess that the hood is fat.

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Re: New NW2 by Bachmann?
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2013, 02:58:42 PM »
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Hooray, now both N scale models of the NW2 are missing the louvers.   :trollface:

It would seem they didn't all have louvers...

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Re: New NW2 by Bachmann?
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2013, 03:11:36 PM »
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I'm sure he was just saying that if we are going to have duplicate models, the later one could represent a different phase where louvers would be more accurate.
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Re: New NW2 by Bachmann?
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2013, 03:25:43 PM »
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David beat me to it.

There are 5 phases of NW2 and the louvers is part of it.

I still assert that they should have made the late phase.

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