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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #150 on: July 16, 2013, 02:19:16 PM »
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Quote from: davefoxx on July 16, 2013, 02:13:09 PM
Joe,

Okay, I realize that this request is probably too limited for what you seek, and I doubt I'll ever see a mass-produced N scale model.  But, I'll try anyway, since it doesn't hurt to ask.  I'm looking for the Atlantic Coast Line ("ACL") M-5 caboose, which went to the successor roads, Seaboard Coast Line ("SCL") and Seaboard System ("SBD").  Other roads, such as the Clinchfield ("CRR"), the Columbia, Newberry and Laurens Railroad ("CNL"), and the Winston-Salem Southbound Ry. ("WSS"), also owned similar cabooses.

ACL: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2480347
SCL: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1641344 and http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1926212
SBD: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1926213 and http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=616217
CRR: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=104724
CNL: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1434560
WSS: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1641345

Thanks,
DFF

Given the success of the Keyser Valley Caboose, if MTL doesn't do this one ESM could . . . .
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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #151 on: July 16, 2013, 02:21:14 PM »
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Quote from: Philip H on July 16, 2013, 02:19:16 PM
Given the success of the Keyser Valley Caboose, if MTL doesn't do this one ESM could . . . .

That wouldn't bother me at all.  This caboose is to ACL/SCL fans what the Magor caboose is to C&O fans.  Atlas gave us that one, so there's always hope.

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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #152 on: July 16, 2013, 02:51:42 PM »
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Quote from: Philip H on July 16, 2013, 02:19:16 PM
Given the success of the Keyser Valley Caboose, if MTL doesn't do this one ESM could . . . .
A new caboose from MT would be most welcome, but I'm not sure if they'll be interested.  Just recently, several manufacturers came out with new cabeese so I'm not sure that MT would be willing to jump on that bandwagon.

As far as the Keyser Vally caboose's success, sure it was successful' But it was one-off limited run custom-made model.  I didn't follow the Keyser  thread very closely so I don't know if the quantity manufactured was revealed. But it was probably in the hundreds. I suspect that MT might be searching for a new injection-molded styrene model which would be made in tens of thousands.  IMO, judging the caboose market by the success of Keyser Valley is a bit flawed.
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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #153 on: July 16, 2013, 03:01:37 PM »
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I wasn't juding the success of the caboose market based on the Keyser Valley caboose; rather I was suggesting that there exists a well know manufacturer of eastern road prototype models who recently did a non-standard caboose model that sold well and was snapped up by a whole bunch of folks who don't model the Kesyer's prototypes - including me.  I am sure MTL wants something they can sell in quantity; likewise I'm sure ESM is looking for models if eastern prototypes that it can do justice to, and I think this qualifies as one.
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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #154 on: July 16, 2013, 05:15:53 PM »
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Caboose are so particular to RRs that generic models don't cut it.  For instance, Bluford's Great Northern transfer caboose.  The prototype X178 was built on a VO1000 frame and ran on the unit's Baldwin trucks.  The Bluford model is, um, not adequate for the true GN fan.  There may not be enough of us for anyone to care, but that doesn't make the model any better of a representation.

IMO, while everyone wants injection molded versions of their road's cabeese, the vast selection makes caboose models better suited for etched brass or Shapeways makers where small runs with adequate proportion and detail can be had.
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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #155 on: July 16, 2013, 05:32:23 PM »
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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #156 on: July 16, 2013, 06:01:37 PM »
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+1  Those would be hot.
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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #157 on: July 16, 2013, 06:48:14 PM »
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make those 3 units heavy enough to run in bare table trains with Atlas/MTL/Trainworx/BLMA flats and Interail/Alan Curtis/Walthers/Kato well cars.  Reproducing OALAT circa 1984 is still a personal long term goal...
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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #158 on: July 16, 2013, 06:58:09 PM »
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Quote from: bbussey on July 16, 2013, 12:07:07 PM
Two of the three ESM ready-to-run injection-molded models are Pennsy prototypes.  It may be a while before a third appears.  ;)

I cant wait to get my hands on the upcoming CB&Q X-58 boxcars!
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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #159 on: July 16, 2013, 07:27:26 PM »
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Quote from: bbussey on July 16, 2013, 02:13:02 PM
Don't the G26 and XIH fit your criteria?

Yep.
My official cut-off is 1956. (although I tend to cling quite close to WWII and the initial post-war years)
I actually have a G26, but it is in Conrail (I bought it second-hand at a Greenberg show).
(Had it not been for TRW, I probably wouldn't know about ESM.)
It might seem odd for me to have it, but my tiny motive-power roster includes a CR patched Reading MP15-DC. Sold my NS one for $90 and turned around and bought the CR patched Reading for $60.


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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #160 on: July 16, 2013, 08:03:22 PM »
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Quote from: CBQ Fan on July 16, 2013, 06:58:09 PM
I cant wait to get my hands on the upcoming CB&Q X-58 boxcars!

Soon.  Maybe a month early if the stars stay in alignment.

Quote from: VonRyan on July 16, 2013, 07:27:26 PM
Yep.
My official cut-off is 1956. (although I tend to cling quite close to WWII and the initial post-war years)
I actually have a G26, but it is in Conrail (I bought it second-hand at a Greenberg show).

The Pennsy and Lehigh Valley schemes on the G26 are pre-1956 and still readily available.  There are three BAR/NH schemes on the XIH boxcar that are pre-1956, most of which remain available albeit in limited quantities.  A new road number on the 1950 Magor-built BAR State of Maine XIH is in the latest release that started hitting the stores this week.  So multiple schemes on two of the three ESM models that have been available for years fit your criteria.
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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #161 on: July 16, 2013, 09:35:41 PM »
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Quote from: bbussey on July 16, 2013, 08:03:22 PM
Soon.  Maybe a month early if the stars stay in alignment.

The Pennsy and Lehigh Valley schemes on the G26 are pre-1956 and still readily available.  There are three BAR/NH schemes on the XIH boxcar that are pre-1956, most of which remain available albeit in limited quantities.  A new road number on the 1950 Magor-built BAR State of Maine XIH is in the latest release that started hitting the stores this week.  So multiple schemes on two of the three ESM models that have been available for years fit your criteria.

How many road numbers?
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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #162 on: July 16, 2013, 11:40:03 PM »
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Two this time out.  Line art was will be in the July August ESM Newsletter.
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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #163 on: July 17, 2013, 12:07:50 AM »
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Quote from: bbussey on July 16, 2013, 11:40:03 PM
Two this time out.  Line art was will be in the July August ESM Newsletter.
Are you going to do the X-58 with the large Conrail can opener? 8)   http://thecrhs.org/image/view/24744/_original    Here is another one but it is the X58B  http://thecrhs.org/image/view/10467/_original
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Re: Annual MTL Body Style Hunt.
« Reply #164 on: July 17, 2013, 12:26:25 AM »
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There are plenty of CR schemes to do — you'll have to wait and see!  CR modelers will be very happy with the next release.
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