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Re: Ultra-rare PRR brass on eBay - NJ Custom T-1
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2013, 11:03:26 AM »
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why does this think look like it has a skin disease?

Hornwrecker would know this problem well. Brass players know this as "brass rot" or "red rot". It's basically a surface corrosion which usually stays shallow, but if left unmanaged for too long can burrow deep enough to make it difficult to restore the surface. This model is in the beginning stages, and you would want to do some "sand"-blasting to remove it before painting.
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« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2013, 11:35:35 AM »
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How much would someone pay for one of these if it was custom painted and DCC with sound installed? Wondering if it would be worth bidding for. I'm not a Pennsy fan but just an opportunist.  :D

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That depends.  If you painted it up nice and put a decoder in it, I still wouldn't pay $5 for it unless you completely changed out
the drivetrain (not just the motors, but the whole way they drive the engine), and all the shorting problems this thing has.
But then, I'm not a "collector".  I would be buying it to run it, and run it will not unless you do some mechanical work on it.

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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2013, 12:59:36 AM »
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guarantee it some freaking dealer, who will put it back on Ebay the same day they get it, at a markup. Bastards.
Not a nefarious dealer. It's one of the freight forwarding services.

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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2013, 01:23:44 AM »
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Not a nefarious dealer. It's one of the freight forwarding services.

I don't care, he's still a bastard.
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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2013, 07:32:35 AM »
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Saving for a holiday just became harder....

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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2013, 08:39:30 AM »
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I think that I might have to empty the bank for that J class... no time like the present to try and get in on the act, plus they will only get more expensive in the future...

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« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2013, 12:17:37 PM »
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Looks like a second T1 for sale http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=161045207891&item=161045207891&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466

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    Thanks Brian for the link, I just bought her !
Last buyer said it wouldn't run on the track but tested both motors and they ran. NO DRAW-BAR for the tender ???    LOL
Just happen to have an extra NJ T1 draw-bar that was in my de-skirted version I bought a few years back !



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« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2013, 02:33:35 PM »
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I keep hoping that someone comes out with plastic ready to run T1s and Js.  If for anything, to keep the stupid prices in line for the brass ones.

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« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2013, 04:41:32 PM »
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I keep hoping that someone comes out with plastic ready to run T1s and Js.  If for anything, to keep the stupid prices in line for the brass ones.

Amen to that bob!
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Re: Ultra-rare PRR brass on eBay - NJ Custom T-1
« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2013, 12:16:40 PM »
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I keep hoping that someone comes out with plastic ready to run T1s and Js.  If for anything, to keep the stupid prices in line for the brass ones.
Let's see;
Who makes Pennsy style passenger cars that could be reused?
Kato.
Who has lot's of experience with 8 driver steam engines?
Kato.
Who like's flashy paint schemes to apply to passenger consists and power?  (Congressional, dark green with gold strips, I don't know, were any T-1's painted in the Broadway paint scheme?)
Kato.
I've dinged them a couple times about doing the T-1 in N scale. 
Maybe if a few more joined the chorus... ;)

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Re: Ultra-rare PRR brass on eBay - NJ Custom T-1
« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2013, 12:46:08 PM »
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Hornwrecker would know this problem well. Brass players know this as "brass rot" or "red rot". It's basically a surface corrosion which usually stays shallow, but if left unmanaged for too long can burrow deep enough to make it difficult to restore the surface. This model is in the beginning stages, and you would want to do some "sand"-blasting to remove it before painting.

Redrot is a de-zincification of the brass, usually, but not always caused by impurities in the zinc and/or possible an electrolytic reaction.  (very old brass was made with calamine scraped from lead smelting chimneys, very red rot susceptible )

Hard to tell without looking at it in person, but I'll guess that this is surface tarnish, probably caused by outgassing of the foam cradle in the loco box.  Bad foam can cause some interesting and colorful tarnishing by releasing chemicals as it breaks down.  Recently some  batches of foam used in custom instrument cases has caused some very rapid, unusual tarnishing on high end horns, which are usually unlacquered. 

/former corrosion chemist
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Re: Ultra-rare PRR brass on eBay - NJ Custom T-1
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2013, 01:27:29 PM »
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Ya, Kato can make a T1, right after they make a K4!  :trollface: (Runs back to trench)
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Re: Ultra-rare PRR brass on eBay - NJ Custom T-1
« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2013, 02:16:10 PM »
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Even though we all hate them BLI is probably the only way N scale will get them
Hopefully sometime in my lifetime
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