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WOT PC&F 50-ft 70 ton Insulated Box Car pre-production pics
« on: February 23, 2013, 12:36:59 AM »
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FYI, pre-production pics of the Wheels Of Time PC&F 50-ft 70 ton Insulated Box Cars are posted at http://www.wheelsotime.com/50-ft-insulated-box-car with all six initial schemes and both bodystyles represented.


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Re: WOT PC&F 50-ft 70 ton Insulated Box Car pre-production pics
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2013, 12:49:15 AM »
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Thanks, Bryan...


Some of these made it to 2005-2007 if not later on BN:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=385350

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Re: WOT PC&F 50-ft 70 ton Insulated Box Car pre-production pics
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2013, 08:18:16 AM »
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Sedation
of Mr. Wallet has begun. 

Looking at the pre-production photo the CAPY/LD LMT/LT WT lettering appears to be stretched a tad wide under the road number, while the numerics under the roadnumber appears correct to my eye.  Placement of graphics overall seems to be quite accurate, potentially to the point of my needing to increase my order quantities. 

Looks like adding inspection dots and lube plates along with some moderate fading and weathering will be the only work necessary to complete them for '1984' service.  An easy fix for a much needed model. 

Bring 'em on...
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Re: WOT PC&F 50-ft 70 ton Insulated Box Car pre-production pics
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2013, 08:26:53 AM »
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I'm in for a few.

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Re: WOT PC&F 50-ft 70 ton Insulated Box Car pre-production pics
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2013, 09:03:58 AM »
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That BN car in service I posted above - anyone capable of decoding that hazmat sign?  (I mean read  it - I know where you can decode the UN numbers)

I'm guessing they are no longer in food service....    :facepalm:


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Re: WOT PC&F 50-ft 70 ton Insulated Box Car pre-production pics
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2013, 10:30:09 AM »
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Nice cars.

Looks like the SP and WP cars were put in service before my cut-off date of August, 1970 so I'll be in for a couple.


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Re: WOT PC&F 50-ft 70 ton Insulated Box Car pre-production pics
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2013, 10:35:46 AM »
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That BN car in service I posted above - anyone capable of decoding that hazmat sign?

Looks like Dangerous When Wet.

http://environmentalchemistry.com/yogi/hazmat/placards/class4.html
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Re: WOT PC&F 50-ft 70 ton Insulated Box Car pre-production pics
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2013, 10:48:18 AM »
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Looks like Dangerous When Wet.

http://environmentalchemistry.com/yogi/hazmat/placards/class4.html

Hmmmm....   I fiddled around and what I make out of it is UN #3431  "Nitrobenzotrifluorides, solid", which seems
to have some application in agri-chemicals, which sort of makes sense...

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Re: WOT PC&F 50-ft 70 ton Insulated Box Car pre-production pics
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2013, 12:01:27 PM »
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Microscale offers decals of those particular hazmat markings.  #60-840.  They have them in stock.

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Re: WOT PC&F 50-ft 70 ton Insulated Box Car pre-production pics
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2013, 02:42:09 AM »
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My two Hazmat books, one from the late 70s and one from the late 80s, don't even HAVE a UN #3431, or "Nitrobenzotrifluorides", solid or other wise.  The 70s version doesn;t have UN numbers.  Fortunately I model 1974, so apparently this stuff wasn't around then.  Here's a page with a little more on the stuff.

http://www.hazmattool.com/info.php?a=Nitrobenzotrifluorides%2C+solid&b=UN3431&c=6.1&PHPSESSID=sq3ohubk3oqi4v0861ed3ebq91

Both list "Nitrobenzol", or "Nitrobenzene", same thing, UN #1662.

The 1970s book is "Emergency Handling of Hazardous Materials in Surface Transportation", September 1977, from the Bureau of Explosives and AAR, and is specially designed for railroads.  It has some very interesting stuff, like the fact that lead-acid batteries cannot be shipped in open hopper cars.  Why one would want to I have no idea...  Hair is considered a spontaneous combustion hazard.  I assume that's bailed hair, not hair on ones head, but it doesn't say so.   Or maybe "Lithium Borohydride, Flammable Solid, Water Reactive", which calls for using, among other things, graphite as an extinguishing agent.  As graphite itself burns, that seems a little strange.  Even cosmetics are listed, under various hazard categories.

And then there's this one:
ACID FISH SCRAP (FISH SCRAP CONTAINING LESS THAN 6% OR MORE THAN 12% MOISTURE)
FLAMMABLE SOLID

Acid fish scrap that is too dry is liable to spontaneous heating and ignition, or too wet is liable to decay, spontaneous heating and ignition.
If material is on fire or involved in fire
Flood with water.
If material not on fire and not involved in fire
Keep sparks, flames, and other sources of ignition away

There are all kinds of interesting names and rules for those who want to complicate their operations.
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Re: WOT PC&F 50-ft 70 ton Insulated Box Car pre-production pics
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2013, 09:54:51 AM »
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Very nice. Gotta grab one of the BN, cushion underframe and all!

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Re: WOT PC&F 50-ft 70 ton Insulated Box Car pre-production pics
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2013, 11:07:07 AM »
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They look awesome.  Can't wait for these. 

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Re: WOT PC&F 50-ft 70 ton Insulated Box Car pre-production pics
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2013, 11:24:23 AM »
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I may have to grab a WP car - they showed up occasionally in Baton Rouse. Nice cars.
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Re: WOT PC&F 50-ft 70 ton Insulated Box Car pre-production pics
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2013, 12:11:47 PM »
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Acid Fish Scrap goes nicely on a bed of fresh baby spinach and wild rice!