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A river runs through it
« on: February 02, 2013, 08:00:26 PM »
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So I'm working to complete my nolix I posted about weeks ago and other than planning and installing roadbed and track which will be much easier than nolix construction, I'm thinking of the river that will run through it.  I have an excellent article from RMC from 1997 I believe that runs 8 pages, experiments with various methods of waterfalls and utilize various methods for rivers, from Envirotex to resins, to woodland scenic stuff (didn't do well) to epoxies.

Apparently epoxies are the most viscus which I am thinking might be a plus in creating a river on a bit of a "grade" so to speak.  So other than "flat" rivers, how do you lay the "river" material so that it all doesn't flow downwards before curing?

What techniques have some of you used?
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Re: A river runs through it
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2013, 09:11:25 PM »
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Rick:

You might want to speak with Steve Stark.  He recently put in his waterfalls under the Arbutus or Niagara Canyon bridge.


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Re: A river runs through it
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2013, 09:55:38 PM »
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I have never done this, but for what it's worth I would consider building the river/waterfall framework separately from the rest of the layout.  It could then be oriented to obtain the desired gravitational effect on the resin, and installed in the layout later. 

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Re: A river runs through it
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2013, 10:12:58 PM »
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For the river/waterfall scenes on my James River Branch, I poured resin from the top, and let it flow down the river into a container. Then I just kept re-pouring it until it started to set. Eventually it built up a satisfying depth. Afterwards, I created rapids and the falls with several applications of gloss medium, followed by some streaks of white paint.





The scene was difficult to photograph because it was physically small and wedged into a tree-lined canyon.
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Re: A river runs through it
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2013, 11:26:55 PM »
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For the river/waterfall scenes on my James River Branch, I poured resin from the top, and let it flow down the river into a container. Then I just kept re-pouring it until it started to set. Eventually it built up a satisfying depth. Afterwards, I created rapids and the falls with several applications of gloss medium, followed by some streaks of white paint.



The scene was difficult to photograph because it was physically small and wedged into a tree-lined canyon.

You know, my initial reaction was that this looks a lot like white paint., and that not many water falls actually look so white as this one looks.
But you know what?  Here's what James River waterfalls actually look like:



Good job, David!
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Re: A river runs through it
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2013, 12:20:54 AM »
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I might have given a false impression when discussing the RMC article, I mentioned water falls, but I'm pretty sure I won't have one, that may change.  For me the issue is, can you create a river on a grade without problems using water medium to simulate water?

Tim, if I see Steve Stark at the March show, I'll talk him up about my project, thanks.
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Re: A river runs through it
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2013, 05:55:27 AM »
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I might have given a false impression when discussing the RMC article, I mentioned water falls, but I'm pretty sure I won't have one, that may change.  For me the issue is, can you create a river on a grade without problems using water medium to simulate water?

That's just what I did, even though it's hard to see in the first image. As long as the waterway has enough depth and level areas to collect resin, and some point where it can exit the layout, then the pouring-until-it-almost-sets technique I used should do the trick.

I just kept on recycling the clear resin until I could no longer suck it up with a disposable syringe.



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Re: A river runs through it
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2013, 08:56:37 AM »
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David, that is one of the best waterfall/fast flowing water scenes I've seen. I love the wet rock to simulate mist. Never knew thus little gem exsisted on the JRB.