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Re: Low side gondola , interest ? ESM please read .
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2013, 11:35:58 PM »
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N&W G2, 1950s 24" "N&W" scheme:

http://spec.lib.vt.edu/imagebase/norfolksouthern/full/ns2457.jpeg
(the G2 appears to have drop bottom hardware)

N&W G1, 1950s 24" "N&W" scheme:

http://spec.lib.vt.edu/imagebase/norfolksouthern/full/ns2454.jpeg

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Re: Low side gondola , interest ? ESM please read .
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2013, 03:44:56 AM »
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N Scale Railroading
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I don't have it...
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Re: Low side gondola , interest ? ESM please read .
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2013, 03:51:09 AM »
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Thanks Chris , I might .

http://www.nscalerailroadn.com/019/NSR019.html

I don't think I have it now that I see the cover , but I will look tomorrow .
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Re: Low side gondola , interest ? ESM please read .
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2013, 05:05:03 AM »
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Re: Low side gondola , interest ? ESM please read .
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2013, 08:31:58 AM »
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I'll investigate if the ACL class K7 gondola can be offered in the MIA Series economically.  No promises though.  In addition to cost ... it's contingent on acquiring engineering drawings, suitable OEM part availability, if it can be properly weighted, and if the model can be designed with a non-fishbelly option so that MEC can be included. 

A consumer commitment of 50 pieces would increase the odds of it moving forward.
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Re: Low side gondola , interest ? ESM please read .
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2013, 09:07:28 AM »
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Did the MEC gons haul anything other than stone and range far off-line?  If so, I'm in for a pair.
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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2013, 09:22:22 AM »
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I'm sticking my toe into VGN and have started scratchbuilding patterns for their low side gon and a battleship gon old school style...no RP.  Will post some shots when I get the parts together this weekend.

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Re: Low side gondola , interest ? ESM please read .
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2013, 11:53:37 AM »
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needs more GRa or GLa! :trollface:
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Re: Low side gondola , interest ? ESM please read .
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2013, 12:04:34 PM »
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Aren't we at a point that a car that was owned by but one road is possible to make in plastic? The multiple road thing shouldn't be a problem anymore. If a manufacturer says that, thaen they are just saying "We're lazy." It's not a problem for FVM, not a problem for Rapido Trains, not a problem for Trainworxx, not a problem for BLMA...

Of course we will then complain about the price.
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Re: Low side gondola , interest ? ESM please read .
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2013, 12:24:00 PM »
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No, we're not.  The deciding factor is the number of schemes, not the number of roads.  The Milwaukee rib-side boxcars have a number of different schemes, and minor body variations do not add much to the tooling cost if done simultaneously.  The BLMA Top Gon and mechanical reefer, the FVM wagontop and bay window caboose, the ESM G26 gon and X58 boxcar, the Rapido passenger line - all have been released with multiple schemes and/or body variations, even if only one railroad has been represented.  "Lazyness" does not factor into the decision in any way.

It makes little sense to tool a low-side gondola, especially one that has few roads or schemes.  Gondolas in general don't sell as well as other body styles, for whatever reason.  I don't think it's too much to expect for those who want a model of a specific esoteric prototype to have to invest some time/effort in building and painting a kit, particularly one that isn't difficult.  Let's get the "model" back into Model Railroading.
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Re: Low side gondola , interest ? ESM please read .
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2013, 12:55:06 PM »
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I think those smaller companies can do limited road name cars because they are...small.  They don't have the employee/benifit/facilities overhead we or Atlas or Athern have.  If it were just me and a chinese factory, I could do shop built SP/ATSF/UP Cars and probably make enough to pay my wage and invest in more tooling just servicing West Coast Modelers. Heck, if Bryan can do it servicing the 5 Pennsy and 4 New Haven modelers out there, it should be easy for me  :D  But as a larger company the problem is more complex.  Not lazy, we just need to meet payroll every week.

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Re: Low side gondola , interest ? ESM please read .
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2013, 01:27:39 PM »
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Quote from: Chris333 on January 30, 2013, 03:44:56 AM
N Scale Railroading
September 2003

I don't have it...

I found it , thanks again Chris , bashed from MP gons ( states MTL fixed end straight side gons could be used also ) model photos , and info for N&W , Seaboard , and Southern . Has a ref to RMC May 1989 for drawings and lots of proto photos . I don't have old RMC mags . Still holding out for ESM and MTL to fill this gap .

Edit , just got the RMC edition on eBay coming my way .
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Re: Low side gondola , interest ? ESM please read .
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2013, 01:41:47 PM »
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Quote from: Mark5 on January 29, 2013, 11:35:58 PM
N&W G2, 1950s 24" "N&W" scheme:

http://spec.lib.vt.edu/imagebase/norfolksouthern/full/ns2457.jpeg
(the G2 appears to have drop bottom hardware)

N&W G1, 1950s 24" "N&W" scheme:

http://spec.lib.vt.edu/imagebase/norfolksouthern/full/ns2454.jpeg

Mark

Yes please, a few of these would be most welcome.

Cheers,

Kev
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Re: Low side gondola , interest ? ESM please read .
« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2013, 02:39:12 PM »
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Quote from: Shipsure on January 30, 2013, 12:55:06 PM
I think those smaller companies can do limited road name cars because they are...small.  They don't have the employee/benifit/facilities overhead we or Atlas or Athern have.  If it were just me and a chinese factory, I could do shop built SP/ATSF/UP Cars and probably make enough to pay my wage and invest in more tooling just servicing West Coast Modelers. Heck, if Bryan can do it servicing the 5 Pennsy and 4 New Haven modelers out there, it should be easy for me  :D  But as a larger company the problem is more complex.  Not lazy, we just need to meet payroll every week.

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Maybe, but those 5 Pennsy modelers are  c r a z y ! ! ! :D
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Re: Low side gondola , interest ? ESM please read .
« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2013, 02:43:39 PM »
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Quote from: up1950s on January 30, 2013, 01:27:39 PM
I found it , thanks again Chris , bashed from MP gons ( states MTL fixed end straight side gons could be used also ) model photos , and info for N&W , Seaboard , and Southern . Has a ref to RMC May 1989 for drawings and lots of proto photos . I don't have old RMC mags . Still holding out for ESM and MTL to fill this gap .

Edit , just got the RMC edition on eBay coming my way .

Arrrr I just ebayed the N scale mag, now I have to look for the RMC.
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