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Re: Hypothetical: manufacturing winter trees
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2012, 02:07:59 PM »
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I have been making wire trees for N and HO projects for some time. The recent trick I learned from Gordon Gravett's book is to start with long stands of straight wire, not a twisted wire or braid. The results have been excellent. The drawback, is that the trees take a good bit of time to make. But in O scale, one tree covers a lot of ground. See http://usmrr.blogspot.com/2012/03/upping-my-tree-game.html

Wire trees are quite durable, so they are ideal for areas where you might get rough handling. Supertrees and dried weeds will eventually break as you operate your layout or work around them.

Here is a shot showing some wire trees installed on my layout.

Note the big tree just to the right the stack is not finished.

I also plan to try some etched leaves to depict marescent oaks and maybe even pine needle clusters on southern yellow pine. This was a technique I saw on a video from 1935 from the Harvard Forestry museum. The southern yellow pine is a tough nut to model accurately but I am desperate enough to try the etched needle route. This comment applies to big scale. For N Scale, Caspia works well enough.

I paint my own back drops. One reason is so that I can paint the trees on the backdrop to match my model trees. By doing this it makes it very hard to tell which trees are painted 2D and which are 3D.  Adding a painted tree on the backdrop is a good way to thicken the forest with less effort than modeling 3D trees.

I also found that branches from my wife's miniature crepe myrtles make good background trees when placed near the backdrop. Her full size crepe myrtles don't have enough small scale ramification to be convincing. The miniature crepe myrtles  also have nice scale bark texture.

I am lucky in that most of the trees in my modeled era and area have been cut down. Adding a tree stump is much, much easier than adding a 3D tree. When employed in mass, they convey the feeling of a finished scene with much less work. This photo shows what I mean as you examine the area behind the bridge to the right of the wagon.

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Re: Hypothetical: manufacturing winter trees
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2012, 03:41:32 PM »
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Man, what a layout! And to think in a few short months we can do that in N with the new Atlas steam and MTL cars.
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Re: Hypothetical: manufacturing winter trees
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2012, 08:53:59 PM »
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Not to highjack the thread, but I tried an N Scale ACW era layout. Everything was doable except the operation and appearance of the locomotives. The Bachman 4-4-0 would not run and it looked clunky, especially in photos.

To put it in perspective, check out these photos.


In case you can't tell, this is a Bachman N scale 4-4-0 and a RLW boxcar on one of my O scale flat cars.



This shot shows how the O scale 4-4-0 compares to an HO and N Scale diesel. It is not much bigger than an HO diesel, but just loaded with fine detail. It also can be converted to battery power.


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Re: Hypothetical: manufacturing winter trees
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2012, 04:33:35 AM »
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If any of you are seriously interested in Civil War era trains...this site at Shapeways is amazing!  I've purchased the CB&Q #7, 5ft trucks and they are near perfect (with a few Archer Transfer rivets applied) for U.P. "Q" trucks on my CA, CA-1, CA-3 and CA-4 cabooses.  I am sure the Civil War Era stuff is equally fantastic!  Go here: http://www.shapeways.com/shops/panamintmodels?s=0

I agree that anything commercially available in N-scale for American 4-4-0's looks "clunky"  Perhaps Panamint Models will do something to alleviate that problem in the near future.

Civil War N-scale figures, horses, cavalry, infantry, artillery and other details are available from GHQ

To re-hijack this thread, etched tree trunks in several sizes and styles, as well as etched N-scale maple/sycamore leaves and branches (!), ivy/grape vines, oak leaves and branches and weeping willow leaves and branches are available here: http://www.ngineering.com/bare_trees.htm

I haven't used any of these etched leaves or trees yet, but they DO look interesting!