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Weekend Update 1/15/12
« on: January 14, 2012, 12:36:44 AM »
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Re: Weekend Update 1/15/12
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2012, 08:56:26 AM »
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Well; being as the "MIke-O-Trains" backshop is still suffering from a significant lack of parts we had to push back the retofit of the remaining Geeps until such time as the parts are received. This left us wondering if we should lay off the gang or take on another project......we chose the latter....

Hobbycraft Canada (Life Like) commissioned several runs of C424 a few years ago; there were some issues with the first run, specifically paint colour but by the second time they got it right. I have a number of both the handsome tuscan and grey units and a few of the not so handsome Action Red locomotives. They are well executed; that said they are representitive of the original Alco units and not the MLW licenced units that the CPR and CN bought.

There are a number of significant spotting differences between the US Alco units and the Canadian MLW units:

1. Head light is located on the lower short nose, not above the cab windows. (more on this later)
2. Snow shields cover the intakes directly behind the cab (snow....Canada...go figure....)
3. The fuel tank on the LL model is a RS11 style tank; the Canadian units had a unique double tank arrangement.
4. The flaired rear radiator on the LL unit needs to be changed to a flat back, similar to the Canadian RS 10/18 units.
5. The rear headlight is a small, single lamp centered on the rear high hood.
6. Add a side bell on the engineer side.

In addition; (and this is what drives many of the a$$hats here nuts - when a mfg's lack of basic research causes the modeler work) The first CPR C424 was built by Alco (8200; later renumbered to series leader 4200) and the first 9 units in the series were built similiar to the Alco design (except for the fuel tanks) with the head light being on the high front hood. Shortly thereafter the lamps were moved to the lower hood and the high hood plated over. The remaining 30 units were built with a "crested" high hood and the lamps on the lower hood.

If LL had numbered the units 4201-4209 then the modeler could have plated over the high hood light and moved on.... they didn't... not one unit... so I had to renumber the unit to 4208, so the lamp could be plated over....

Enough talk....



The headlight wwas moved to the lower hood, the top plated over with 0.05 styrene and slightly rusted. MU's were added and the handrails painted and weathered....



A small Montreal based company (transport 2000) makes a C424/C630 fuel tank and carbody filter conversion kit that really helps the Canadian modeler. The tanks sides are removed and the new tanks sides and filters added. I also added some styrene I beams to the frame bottom to help take up some of the space. I made snow shields for the intakes behind the cab out of styrene and adhered them over the screens. The unique side bell was added and the three chime horn was moved to the correct spot on the cab hood.



The flaired radiator top was cut off and the rear car body was filed down. Styrene stock was shaped to fill in the rear in the same shape as a RS18. Once filled and sanded down I painted it and added a single small rear light. Oddly enough there were no rear number boards and the CPR did not paint a road number on, as they did with the SD40's and later CP Action Red livery.



I weathered the unit as a good Alco should be; they guys made smoke ! Overall the changes make the unit much more "Canadian looking" and when seen passing a CPR C630 in tuscan and grey, create a much more believable scene that will make the hearts of true Alco and MLW fans beat just a wee bit faster.

Next; we give an Action Red unit the same treatment.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2012, 09:02:28 AM by Puddington »
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Re: Weekend Update 1/15/12
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2012, 09:38:58 AM »
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Added a new RPO to my C&NW fleet.

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Re: Weekend Update 1/15/12
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2012, 10:09:24 AM »
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With the Gandy Dancers' help, the benchwork has been pushed all the way over the continental divide.

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Re: Weekend Update 1/15/12
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2012, 11:20:35 AM »
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Nicely done Puddington!

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Re: Weekend Update 1/15/12
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2012, 12:41:27 PM »
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Pud:

Good job on the MLW C-424.  I would like to get one of those Transport 2000 fuel tank kits as I have a CN unit planned.


I have set the models aside for a while to concentrrate on tracklaying.  The roadbed has been extended from Tremblay to the Kiskatinaw River, and the track sections have been assembled:




A temporary bridge will be required to get across the river and on towards Dawson Creek.


Meanwhile, on the lower deck, for some time I have been unhappy with the curve coming out of the helix enclosure.  It was my first piece of track and the curve is too sharp in the middle.  I realigned the Pine River bridge and built a new 18 inch radius curve which is much better:




The bridge realignment will also help with the curve at the other end of the bridge, which is where my efforts will be concentrated this weekend.


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Re: Weekend Update 1/15/12
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2012, 01:47:27 PM »
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Worked on some roads..... heh  heh[black sheep] row ads [/black sheep]





« Last Edit: January 14, 2012, 02:00:13 PM by Ian MacMillan »
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Re: Weekend Update 1/15/12
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2012, 02:07:41 PM »
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The first CPR C424 was built by Alco (8200; later renumbered to series leader 4200)...

Sorry to pick nits, Pud, but it was built as CPR 8300 by MLW in April of 1963. She was the first Century series unit built by either ALCO or MLW, sired the largest ever fleet of the beauties assembled, and it was so fitting that the dipsh*ts at CP had her scrapped instead of donating to Delson or Elgin County. The radiator overhang was not applied to many US units vs the notches, and 8300 was the only MLW built as such. CP later modified the unit with the rear end that CP 4201-4250 were delivered with.

http://trainweb.org/galt-stn/cproster/locomotive/4200s/cp4200.htm

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Re: Weekend Update 1/15/12
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2012, 02:12:15 PM »
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Soakin up da sun in st Thomas and San juan

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Re: Weekend Update 1/15/12
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2012, 02:35:41 PM »
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San juan

I go there in the end of February, I will need some pointers (railroad wise)... if ya see anything remotely interesting.
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Re: Weekend Update 1/15/12
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2012, 02:53:42 PM »
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Used to go to St Thomas every Feb for 3 years while in the Navy.  After a couple week exercise it's fun in the sun for at least 3 or 4 days.  Used to call the wife and tell her about the 80 plus weather and that I'm having a drink by the ocean and she'd get mad because it was probably snowing in MD at the time. 

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Re: Weekend Update 1/15/12
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2012, 03:14:36 PM »
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Good start this week.....
Pudd.- nice Alco
Ian- can't wait to see more of you layout.......
Skytop35- Your layout in MR is what inspired me to switch to n scale........


This week I mostly finished up these two cabooses, the first is a bachmann car that I "fixed".....i.e. added Atlas caboose trucks, Accumates, FVM wheels,plugged windows per prototype.....and a new paint job to get rid of that awful orange......now I really like this caboose...





I also wanted to see what I could do with the windows on an Atlas WV caboose, to get closer to the real thing.





In doing these two cabooses, I came to discover that the decals I have for MEC  cabooses is out of scale, that is too large.  :?

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Re: Weekend Update 1/15/12
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2012, 04:35:52 PM »
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Ian, 1913 looks right there. I'm glad she's found a good home.

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Re: Weekend Update 1/15/12
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2012, 06:57:34 PM »
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Finished scratch building and installing the Mt. Coffin Cannery Co. ("A Taste To Die For!") on my N scale Mt. Coffin & Columbia River layout:



 

 Now I need to get some seagulls and figure out how to model mounds of fish ;)

Keep up the great photos, and Happy Weekend!

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Re: Weekend Update 1/15/12
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2012, 09:05:41 PM »
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Coos, what color did you use to paint your trucks and wheelsets? That looks almost spot on for many pictures I've seen. I'm really digging the RS-11 too.
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