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Dropping trucks on Wallyworld P2k 2-8-8-2?
« on: October 31, 2011, 10:09:11 AM »
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I need a heads up on how to drop the trucks on a Heritage 2-8-8-2...it's not as apparent as other articulatii ;) I think you have to either loosen the base plate on each truck or finagle with the bearing retainers.

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Re: Dropping trucks on Wallyworld P2k 2-8-8-2?
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2011, 12:44:40 AM »
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I need a heads up on how to drop the trucks on a Heritage 2-8-8-2...it's not as apparent as other articulatii ;) I think you have to either loosen the base plate on each truck or finagle with the bearing retainers.

Thanks,
The S.

Plastic truck clips, no need to remove the bearing retainers. Just use a flathead screwdriver in the slot and push down. Then you have to unsolder the pickup wires.

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Re: Dropping trucks on Wallyworld P2k 2-8-8-2?
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2011, 12:45:58 AM »
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Plastic truck clips, no need to remove the bearing retainers. Just use a flathead screwdriver in the slot and push down. Then you have to unsolder the pickup wires.

The S.

That worked like a charm, thanks for the help -S, you are the greatest!

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Re: Dropping trucks on Wallyworld P2k 2-8-8-2?
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2011, 12:48:36 AM »
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That worked like a charm, thanks for the help -S, you are the greatest!

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Totally welcome. I am the greatest thanks for recognizing.

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Re: Dropping trucks on Wallyworld P2k 2-8-8-2?
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2011, 03:49:46 AM »
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Glad I could help.

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Re: Dropping trucks on Wallyworld P2k 2-8-8-2?
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2011, 09:04:58 AM »
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I hadn't had a reason to take one apart yet, sorry.

I will eventually have one in pieces to create a B&O EL something, but not yet.

Now we know who to call on for tips.
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Re: Dropping trucks on Wallyworld P2k 2-8-8-2?
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2011, 10:26:05 AM »
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I hadn't had a reason to take one apart yet, sorry.

I will eventually have one in pieces to create a B&O EL something, but not yet.

Now we know who to call on for tips.

Well I picked up one of the second run whiz-bang smoke magic and mirrors version on the cheap from a board member. Currently I have one of the second run and I had two of the first run that were the "lower model". I wanted to do a shell swap so that I had two "fully loaded" types. If it's your first time around the block, it'll be a bear, just go slow and steady.

1. Pop the cab, may need to use an X-Acto to pop it.
2. Take the phillips head screw out of the smoke stack.
3. On the frame underneathe the cab, infront of the drawbar screw, is the other phillips shell screw, remove it.

Now the upper shell half should pop-off.

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4. Unsolder the truck connections at the motor and the solderpad at firebox location.
5. Remove the phillips screw for the PCB for the headlight.
6. Unsolder both headlight connecting wires from the PCB.
7. Use a flat-head screwdriver and slide it in the relief in the bearing retainer. Push down on the truck nub.
8. Pull down and remove the trucks.

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4. Loosen the wound wires to both trucks, providing slack. Cut the headlight wires between the front block and motor.
5. Use a flat-head screwdriver and slide it in the relief in the bearing retainer. Push down on the truck nub.
6. Gently pull on the truck until the slack in the wires are close to taught.
7. Quickly unsolder the pickup wires from the trucks. Extra care must be taken to not damage surrounding plastic parts or melt the truck frame.
8. Pull down and remove the trucks.

9. Remove both visible underside phillips head screws.

Thats pretty much it. Reassemble in reverse order as necessary. A word to the wise. Get some small gauge blackwire and TCS 1058 8-pin kit. Rewire the trucks and headlight as appropriate instead of trying to reuse the existing wires. Its also handy to have some 1/16" heat shrink tubing. Be mindful when rewiring the headlight, as the you'll want to avoid a connection at the loose weight that fits in the dome.

Now I have an analog 2-8-8-2 that I want to build into something else...I was thinking something B&O/C&O as WM 2-8-8-2 were smaller in stature.

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Re: Dropping trucks on Wallyworld P2k 2-8-8-2?
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2011, 11:24:30 PM »
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While we are talking about the 2-8-8-2....

A member of our club found a video of mine running from this weekend...


Running a little faster than I would like but it's N trak, and I was sharing the line with two other trains that didn't know what scale speed was.
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Re: Dropping trucks on Wallyworld P2k 2-8-8-2?
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2011, 11:34:24 PM »
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That's pretty sweet! 30 cars isn't bad for a steamer! I have to swap the traction tire, I switched out the trucks too since I needed the front pilot with headlight/number boards.

I will say this is infinitely easier than assembling a JNJ B&O caboose.

:D
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Re: Dropping trucks on Wallyworld P2k 2-8-8-2?
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2011, 12:06:08 AM »
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That's pretty sweet! 30 cars isn't bad for a steamer! I have to swap the traction tire, I switched out the trucks too since I needed the front pilot with headlight/number boards.

I will say this is infinitely easier than assembling a JNJ B&O caboose.

:D
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It will do a lot more than that. I just ran out of cars. I started with my Bachmann 2-10-2 but it's geared for scale speed and wide open was too slow for the other guys, and it was right at it's limit with that train. The troop sleepers are heavy and put quite a load on the 2-10-2. I have pulled 45 random freight cars with the 2-10-2 before but it was maxed out with this train, the Y-3 walked away with it. I have more flats on the way and some tanks to put on them. Will have to wait till the next show to see if I can find the limit. The Y-3 has pulled a 50 car coal drag before and they were not the best cars. I guess with new, clean, lighter cars, 70 ought to be doable.
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Re: Dropping trucks on Wallyworld P2k 2-8-8-2?
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2011, 03:00:16 AM »
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I had mine apart about 2 years ago. I did a bunch of stuff to bulk up the area between the drivers and the boiler to fill the gap in to match photos more. I don't think I bothered with more weight because it pulled great. I did set the plug back further into the tender so I could couple closer. And since most photos show the lights on during the day I even left it working  :D

I still have to paint/decal it up for the N&W then bug Tony for a caboose!