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Twirled Trees / Centri"frugal" Conifers
« on: August 09, 2011, 04:27:01 PM »
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Nothing new or "pine"oneering here technique-wise, but I thought I'd share my method for "pining away" anyway.
I'm still trying to figure out the whole photo posting thing (usually get a nice blank screen after posting).
Plus, I hear something magical happens when you reach the 20 post mark.
So bear with me here...


Twirled Trees / Centrifugal Conifers – part 1

 Using green floral wire (got mine at Michaels), cut pairs of 3”-4” lengths. Trees will end up about ½” shorter than length cut. Ten trees will take about an hour (not including drying time).



Insert one pair into the bit of a variable-speed drill about ¼” deep. Secure. With flat-nose pliers, hold wire about 1”away from drill. Slowly spin drill to create trunk.



Lift one wire up, and place the other in a shallow groove cut out from a piece of wood that is of level height to the drill (mine is two 1”x2”s stacked on top of each other, bound with tape, and placed on a piece of 1/8”masonite to reach drill height: not elegant by far, but gets job done).

Note: for 10-20 trees, any jig made out of wood-scrap will suffice. As I roll past the 150 tree mark (on the way to 300-400), I should have set up a better jig: multiple parallel grooves on aboard with tapered width, for various tree heights to allow the tops of the wires to extend past the jig for easier access for the pliers.

 Cut ¾”-1” sections of green twine (Ace Hardware). The twine is three bundles of strands. Take one bundle section and “fluff” each end while holding on to the other end: the twine seems to stick at the ends, and“fluffing” (lightly pulling away stray fibers), will help spread the fibers out to create individual branches.



Keeping the fibers vertical in your fingers, gently separate the fibers horizontally. Then layout the spread fibers on top of the floral wire resting in the jig, keeping the wire centered. The fibers should be thinly spread, and perpendicular to the wire.


 

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Re: Twirled Trees / Centri"frugal" Conifers
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2011, 04:36:01 PM »
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[I'm trying to add more posts, but still getting blank screens & getting logged out.  Will keep trying!]
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Re: Twirled Trees / Centri"frugal" Conifers
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2011, 04:48:04 PM »
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[Alrighty: must be some issue with posting photos.  Only allowed 4 per day?  I dunno.  I'll finish posting the pine process when I figure out what the #*&$^* is going on with the posting issues.  Sorry!]
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2011, 05:05:08 PM »
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[Update: just found out all will be ok after the domain change in 3-5 days.  We'll all just have to pine away until then.]
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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2011, 08:31:09 PM »
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Twirled Trees / Centrifugal Conifers – part 2

 Lower the top wire to sandwich the fibers and use the flat-nose pliers to pinch & hold the two wire ends together. Lift slightly (watch out the fibers don’t fall out!) and push the wood jig out of the way. SLOWLY spin the drill, until there is an even twist to the whole tree. Some fibers might bind up, but that’s okie dokie.



Remove from drill. Hold by bottom, and use scissors to cut stray fibers into desired shape. You might need to use tweezers or a pin to unbind some fibers, or to straighten others out.



Place in clothespin. Spraypaint with Grimy Black (or other dark / medium grey), especially at the bottom and top of trunk. Let dry.

 ***Notice: twisted wire will still be visible through the paint. For the mass of interior trees, this is fine. For more detailed foreground trees, coat the bottom trunk with a mixture of white glue & sawdust, or a wee bit o’ putty, or whatever to give a bit of thickness & non-twisted-wire texture, let dry, and then paint.




In a well ventilated but non-windy area (such as an open garage on a calm day), spray the fibers liberally with hair spray (extra hold, on sale at the drugstore), until white beads appear.



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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2011, 08:39:57 PM »
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[Now it let me do Part 2, but not Part 3.  Poo. :'(]
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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2011, 11:43:20 PM »
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Twirled Trees / Centrifugal Conifers – part 3

 Over a wide pan (that no significant other will ever use again), sprinkle Woodland Scenics “Conifer” coarse ground foam over the whole tree. Pile it on, cover it good. You can use your hand sprinkle and pat the foam on the trees, but I’ve noticed a distinct improvement in texture when I just shake it from the canister (lid off).



Hold the clothespin in one hand while the other taps it firmly right where it pinches the trunk. This should rid the green blob of excess foliage, and reveal a lovely, airy pine tree.



Should you want a pine with thicker foliage, sprinkle a little dark green static grass on before you add the conifer coarse ground foam (I said “a little”: too much makes for a very fuzzy Dr. Seuss tree!).

 Shoot it with a few light sprays of hairspray, then place down to dry (overnight recommended).


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Re: Twirled Trees / Centri"frugal" Conifers
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2011, 11:51:04 PM »
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Pt. 4

Here’s a finished batch of 10:



To install your trees, push a T-pin into the base foam (or plaster shell) to create a hole for the tree. Leave the pin in the ground until you’ve brought the tree to the spot, as the N-scale gophers seem to coverup the spot & create many misleading pseudo-holes all around the same area. Using tweezers, insert the wire trunk into the foam. Voila! If you don’t wiggle the T-pin or the tree around, you do not need to secure with glue. This will allow repositioning & replacing with an improved model that much easier.



Try trees of various heights, with no ground foam on the lower branches (many pines have dead branches at the bottom), or with different foliage. Timberline Scenery’s “Deep Forest Floor” ground foam makes for a good “dead pine” look. I’ve tried a bunch of different foams, but I keep coming back to WS “Conifer”. Whatever looks good to you, and in relation to the other trees on the layout!



Have fun seeing the trees for the forest!
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Re: Twirled Trees / Centri"frugal" Conifers
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2011, 11:56:45 PM »
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Here's some various textures I've tried:



From left to right: WS Conifer only, WS Conifer on WS Dark Green Static Grass, WS Dark Green Static Grass only, WS Green Blend on WS Conifer, & WS Green Blend only

 And a side by side of the WS Conifer on top of WS Dark Green Static Grass & the WS Conifer only:



As you can see, dropping a little static grass in there produces a much fuller tree, but you do run the risk of the static grass clumping a little (see the upper left "branch").

 I find putting the fuller trees in the middle, and the airier trees towards the viewer creates a good effect: denser forest with less trees.

 And for me, as my trees act as a partial viewblock, I can control the see-through-it-ness over the mountain by which density trees I plant on the ridge.
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Re: Twirled Trees / Centri"frugal" Conifers
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2011, 12:28:07 AM »
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Not the greatest on the closeups, but nice for the wide effect.
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Re: Twirled Trees / Centri"frugal" Conifers
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2011, 12:33:18 AM »
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[Ok.  That's it.  Sorry for all the posting problems.]
If anyone has improvements for these little buggers, feel free to chime in.
Always looking for ways to improve the greenery!
(besides chopping down the tallest tree in the forest with a herring)

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Re: Twirled Trees / Centri"frugal" Conifers
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2011, 04:27:28 AM »
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Well, I think I found another method of making trees to use! Combine this with another style I have been seeing and I think I am set, if I ever get to actually build a layout.
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Re: Twirled Trees / Centri"frugal" Conifers
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2011, 09:38:17 AM »
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Nice how-to, thanks. I will definitely have to give this method a try when I get to that stage. The only issue I see [for myself] is how, in your third to last post above [comparison of two trees] the wire twist is so noticeable at the top of the tree. I know topping the tree would limit that effect but I imagine it's the same at the bottom of the trunk as well, and if there's anyway to limit that effect with an additional step to improve the trunk's bark effect. Have you done any experimenting in that direction that you can relay to us, be it failures or improvements you just thought not worth the time/effort?
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Re: Twirled Trees / Centri"frugal" Conifers
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2011, 10:05:04 AM »
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The only issue I see [for myself] is how, in your third to last post above [comparison of two trees] the wire twist is so noticeable at the top of the tree....and if there's anyway to limit that effect with an additional step to improve the trunk's bark effect.
I would imagine if one were to dip the top of the tree in some glue, then sprinkle or pad a small amount of foam and or static grass, it would camouflage the tree top.

In the last picture that M.C. posted, when you look at the overall scene as a whole, these tree tops almost disappear.

I've made a few of these "Wire tree" in the past but mine always seemed to turnout too thick and heavy, almost like a "Bottle Brush".  I guess in this case, Less is better. 

Nice work M.C. and thanks for sharing!

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Re: Twirled Trees / Centri"frugal" Conifers
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2011, 11:30:12 AM »
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The only issue I see [for myself] is how, in your third to last post above [comparison of two trees] the wire twist is so noticeable at the top of the tree. I know topping the tree would limit that effect but I imagine it's the same at the bottom of the trunk as well, and if there's anyway to limit that effect with an additional step to improve the trunk's bark effect. Have you done any experimenting in that direction that you can relay to us, be it failures or improvements you just thought not worth the time/effort?

Yeah, the twisted wire effect is the big drawback to this method as is.
Photography really brings out that detail: when you're standing in front of the layout you really have to stare & squint to see the swirl.

I've heard that mixing white gue with sawdust and painting the trunk works great & gives good texture, but I've been too lazy to try it yet.  I will for the next batch of trees, though, and plant those closer to the viewer (really no reason to do it for the center trees, IMHO).

I've tried the Floquil "Dirt" flocking spray, thinking that would color, thicken & texture the trunks all at once.  Hee hee.  My dropcloth got a lot of texture! The trunks got flecked a gross brown & still had the twisties.

For now I just give the bottom trunk an extra long shot of grimy black & let the paint build up.

But I'll post the white glue / sawdust experiment soon!
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