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color help on future release at MTL
« on: June 06, 2011, 11:56:26 AM »
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http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=712847

Hey guys,

I am researching these newer BNSF cars and cannot find a firm color reference for them.  Anyone have any idea of what color this red is?  I volunteered to go to Dunsmuir and do the research, but that didn't fly :o)

If there is a hobby reference that I can start with, that would be appreciated as well.


thanks again

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Re: color help on future release at MTL
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2011, 12:17:33 PM »
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Not sure about the colour, if it's really that red, or if it's regular oxide red that shows really funny in the photo somehow, but the car is an older (but recently repainted) Berwick.

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Re: color help on future release at MTL
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2011, 12:29:42 PM »
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if it's regular oxide red that shows really funny in the photo somehow, but the car is an older (but recently repainted) Berwick.

That would be my guess, their typical oxide red or mineral red.  If you look just above the left truck where the sun isn't glaring off the paint, it shows what the true color should be.  The other areas where the sun is glaring off it, gives it a look on the "Pinkish" side.  It must be fairly fresh paint from the glaring.

I tilted my monitor and the "Pinkishness" changed to more of the Oxide or Mineral look.  I'd say it's there typical Oxide or Mineral Red that they've always used.

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Re: color help on future release at MTL
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2011, 12:57:56 PM »
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I don't have a specific recommendation, just a request:  if possible would you please consider matching to an existing model paint color, say for example a Polly Scale, ModelMaster, or Badger?   That would make things a lot easier for modelers who like to add detail parts.

I've always though that it's not necessary to try to precisely match a proto color, since models are viewed under all different kinds of indoor lighting which can make the same color look very different.  Proto colors can of course vary considerably anyways.  ;)

just my $0.02  ;)

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Re: color help on future release at MTL
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2011, 01:13:35 PM »
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It almost looks like a Santa Fe heritage car:

http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=36999

I can't find any other examples of a BNSF box with this color, so it would seem to be a one off. Given that, perhaps you could issue it with the cool graffiti.

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Re: color help on future release at MTL
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2011, 01:53:18 PM »
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Does MTL even make that boxcar?  Maybe we should start there...  :'(
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Re: color help on future release at MTL
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2011, 01:55:07 PM »
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That wasn't the question.  I just want to know about the color scheme.


Does MTL even make that boxcar?  Maybe we should start there...  :'(

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Re: color help on future release at MTL
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2011, 01:57:23 PM »
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Looks like lipstick color 638 to me .

http://www.zestwin.com/color-charts.htm

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Re: color help on future release at MTL
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2011, 02:07:01 PM »
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That wasn't the question.  I just want to know about the color scheme.

Yeah, Mike.  Quit your bitchin'.   :P

I say it's most like Mineral Red.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2011, 02:56:40 PM by mcjaco »

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Re: color help on future release at MTL
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2011, 02:35:16 PM »
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I'm sure it would look lovely on me...but not sure about the car..   ;D  Thanks for the good laugh...needed it today!!

Looks like lipstick color 638 to me .

http://www.zestwin.com/color-charts.htm

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Re: color help on future release at MTL
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2011, 04:51:01 PM »
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Does MTL even make that boxcar?  Maybe we should start there...  :'(

As I much as I disfavor agreeing with Mike, he has an underhanded good point that should be considered. Almost an ethical question. Should MTL produce the paint scheme on the wrong model car if it keeps the manufacturer of the right model car from doing the same scheme?

Now, one could say that MTL doing so wouldn't force anyone from not producing the same scheme. After all, it would be the second manufacturer's ultimate decision; but the reality is we regularly hear chatter from manufacturer representatives hinting that if one manufacturer's already done the same scheme or model they're likely not reproduce the effort. So my vote would be - no, leave it, rather than trying to be first at the expense of the modeler.
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Re: color help on future release at MTL
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2011, 05:01:19 PM »
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Maybe MTL is planning on doing that car.
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Re: color help on future release at MTL
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2011, 05:06:23 PM »
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And there will also be chatter about choosing an oddball paint color from either an oversaturated photo or a random batch of poorly mixed paint.  Now, if you're JUST gonna be making that particular car with the graffiti then that's cool.   But when it becomes your standard BNSF paint forumula for the next 20 BNSF cars you do?  Well, I think you catch my drift.

Sorry, but sloppy paint, incorrect paint color, (talking, waaayyy off, not a "shade/weathering issue") incorrect decoration/lettering, or missing lettering or dim data altogether is starting to become the norm in this hobby and it's absolulely on top of my list of complaints.   (not directed specifically at MTL, btw)  We're getting great cars, but if the attention to detail isn't followed through then we might as well have 70's tooling and rapidos.

So that's my backhanded way of saying, thanks for researching this...   ;)   I like the suggestion on the other board of contacting BNSF.   They are probably quite aware if they have lipstick on their boxes.   :-*
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Re: color help on future release at MTL
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2011, 05:24:02 PM »
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If you put a 10' Superior Door on our 25,000 you are pretty close.  Same rib count.  Exact, no.

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Re: color help on future release at MTL
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2011, 06:23:48 PM »
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Does MTL even make that boxcar?  Maybe we should start there...  :'(


They make a box with a door... you know that's a match man.