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Atlas Nov Announcements
« on: November 10, 2010, 06:52:18 PM »
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They got um listed.  New paint on SD50 and RS11.  This one I'm tempted to get:


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Re: Atlas Nov Announcements
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2010, 07:20:17 PM »
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I said it on the AForum and I will say it here.  I just don't understand the difference in MSRP say between a U30C and an RS11.  20 bucks is a bit of a stretch for me to understand.  I think Atlas needs to come down in price just a bit.
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Re: Atlas Nov Announcements
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2010, 07:51:12 PM »
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They got um listed.  New paint on SD50 and RS11.  This one I'm tempted to get:



I was tempted but the plastic roof walk would look out of plase in my sea of IM, Athearns and Atlas Master hoppers.
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Re: Atlas Nov Announcements
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2010, 07:58:06 PM »
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I said it on the AForum and I will say it here.  I just don't understand the difference in MSRP say between a U30C and an RS11.  20 bucks is a bit of a stretch for me to understand.  I think Atlas needs to come down in price just a bit.

Fine scaleness of the details....Handrails, cut levers, etc. Atlas has much finer detail in these areas.
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Re: Atlas Nov Announcements
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2010, 08:01:53 PM »
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I said it on the AForum and I will say it here.  I just don't understand the difference in MSRP say between a U30C and an RS11.  20 bucks is a bit of a stretch for me to understand.  I think Atlas needs to come down in price just a bit.

It's simple, the Atlas will more than likely be painted correctly in an acceptable manner. The Kato won't be up to par if it is like their recent releases. Pay a little more upfront for the Atlas or pay somebody to paint the Kato correctly later.
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Re: Atlas Nov Announcements
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2010, 08:03:46 PM »
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Maybe the $20 is for the 20 SMPH slower you go.

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Re: Atlas Nov Announcements
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2010, 08:08:39 PM »
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I will have to take a look.  Isn't this the same as my RS-11 in NP from around 2005?  Based on the SD45 I am not seeing that amount difference.  I will have to go down stairs and take a close look.  I guess the long and the short of my issue is, is that Kato has done a good job of keeping control of prices while Atlas prices just keep climbing.  Atlas needs to find a way to get prices more in line with Kato, their main compitition.  One man's opinion worth what you paid for it. ::)
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Re: Atlas Nov Announcements
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2010, 08:12:24 PM »
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It's simple, the Atlas will more than likely be painted correctly in an acceptable manner. The Kato won't be up to par if it is like their recent releases. Pay a little more upfront for the Atlas or pay somebody to paint the Kato correctly later.

Outside of the dumb sign you have to tape on the BSB units I see the same basic quality when I look at either make of engine.  Maybe I just have bad eyes,  but my eye doctor says I am fine.................MAybe it is the era I am modeling also.  I don't have any exposure to the modern stuff as I don't own anything newer than 1970.
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Re: Atlas Nov Announcements
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2010, 08:22:53 PM »
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I will have to take a look.  Isn't this the same as my RS-11 in NP from around 2005?  Based on the SD45 I am not seeing that amount difference.  I will have to go down stairs and take a close look.  I guess the long and the short of my issue is, is that Kato has done a good job of keeping control of prices while Atlas prices just keep climbing.  Atlas needs to find a way to get prices more in line with Kato, their main compitition.  One man's opinion worth what you paid for it. ::)

First - If the paint is anything like I saw on the Heritage Units they can keep em. The paint on the WP ones I held in my hands was HORRIBLE.
Second - Kato is not Atlas' competition. If they both made the exact same models, then you could say they were in competition over which model was better. They are just two companies who offer locomotives that are different models, for different desires. Saying that they are in competition is like saying Mack is in competition with Kia. They both make vehicles right?
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Re: Atlas Nov Announcements
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2010, 08:28:10 PM »
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First - If the paint is anything like I saw on the Heritage Units they can keep em. The paint on the WP ones I held in my hands was HORRIBLE.
Second - Kato is not Atlas' competition. If they both made the exact same models, then you could say they were in competition over which model was better. They are just two companies who offer locomotives that are different models, for different desires. Saying that they are in competition is like saying Mack is in competition with Kia. They both make vehicles right?

Mack is in compition with Kenworth though.
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Re: Atlas Nov Announcements
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2010, 08:34:24 PM »
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Just check out the pictures being posted on Trainboard about the SD45's and the CSX Gevo's.

SD45 - http://www.trainboard.com/grapevine/showthread.php?t=125757

Bad paint matches, soft paint edge lines, wrong colors, wrong fonts.

Gevo - http://www.trainboard.com/grapevine/showthread.php?t=125887

Mismatched colors, backwards lighting bolt.
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Re: Atlas Nov Announcements
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2010, 08:34:45 PM »
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They got um listed.  New paint on SD50 and RS11.  This one I'm tempted to get:



This would be a good weathering project

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Re: Atlas Nov Announcements
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2010, 08:35:16 PM »
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Finally, CRDX is being represented with the 4750s. These are perfect for Tom Mann's weathering hands
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Re: Atlas Nov Announcements
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2010, 08:44:18 PM »
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I see the HO guys are getting a re-release of the PHII U30-B.  I wish they would offer those in N Scale. :'(
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Re: Atlas Nov Announcements
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2010, 08:47:04 PM »
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Atlas usually does their homework on paint schemes and lettering nuances.

Kato however manages to screw up on the handful of schemes that they put out, and the execution often is not so great (as noted above).

But as alluded to above, North America is a small side project for Kato, whereas North America is Atlas' primary target.

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