L&N hopper, white lettering or some pale yellow?

[wcfn100]

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=68834

I think I have enough artwork to make a couple L&N hopper for my Waterloo module.  I have both the MT and Atlas cars, but I really want to try and do something the old PS-3 hopper for some variety.

I know the L&N had yellow lettering on some of their cars.  I just can't figure this one out for sure.  I know whatever I print won't be the color shown, I just want to know if I should start with white and grime it up or start with yellow and fade it out.


Jason

[Robbman]

Yellow... note the white dimi data

[Mark5]

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=68834

I think I have enough artwork to make a couple L&N hopper for my Waterloo module.  I have both the MT and Atlas cars, but I really want to try and do something the old PS-3 hopper for some variety.

Cool hopper. Its a shame the old Atlas twin is so grossly oversized.

[wcfn100]

Yellow... note the white dimi data

That area with the white letters has been repainted though so it might be misleading.  It think it's yellow too, but I can't find much on brown L&N cars with yellow lettering.  Are you saying you know for sure, or are you going off the photo?

Cool hopper. Its a shame the old Atlas twin is so grossly oversized.

If I can run MTL PS-1's, in can run other pooly detailed 30 year old tooling.   

I'm really just going for variety.  Once the ends are rebuilt, it won't look too out of place.


Jason

[wcfn100]

Here's the yellow I can get if I don't do two layers.




So if I know it's yellow, I can live with that as a starting point.


Jason

[Mark5]

I'm really just going for variety.  Once the ends are rebuilt, it won't look too out of place.
Jason

The main problem for me is that they are too tall, about even with the top of a 100 ton hopper IIRC. The extra length is manageable.

[cv_acr]

Hard to say; the car is pretty dirty so white lettering will tend to look yellowish and the dim. data is definately repainted so will be whiter than the older weathered lettering.

[Mark5]

The only L&N hopper decals I've found so far in N scale (specifically for 2 bays) is white. The faded white yellowing is a good theory.

Also, L&N modelers seem to be in the "white camp":

http://appalachianrailroadmodeling.com/lnmodels.html

[wcfn100]

I'm really just going for variety.  Once the ends are rebuilt, it won't look too out of place.
Jason

The main problem for me is that they are too tall, about even with the top of a 100 ton hopper IIRC. The extra length is manageable.

I looks like the over all (stock) is about 2' too tall and the side are 1'9" over.  The extra height seems to mostly be above the slopes.  Between general lowering and taking down the side and extension height it may be passable among other 'stock' cars.  I just wonder if I can remove the end extensions without hacking too far down onto the body.  Not that remaking the extensions is a deal breaker.

I'm going to hit up the L&N Yahoo group to find out about the lettering.  I'm also interested in knowing if any of these cars still had the "Old Reliable" script in the late 60's.

Jason