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Amtrak Bagage Car
« on: April 29, 2010, 10:10:16 PM »
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I got a very nice Amtrak Phase III Superliner A+B Kato set for my Birthday, and just got the matching P42.  I've got a nice Amtrak train going as a result.  However, if I look at the routes of interest rather than using the "coach baggage" in the set they would have run with a baggage car.

Something like:

http://www.trainweb.org/amtrakpix/locoshots/baggage/1257A.html

Apparently these were heritage cars that were converted to baggage duty.  There are a couple of different styles running around.

Somehow I'm guessing no one has made anything like this, given they are a fairly unique bit.  Has anyone kitbashed one?  Got any tips?

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Re: Amtrak Bagage Car
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2010, 10:19:02 PM »
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I have a couple of Amtrak baggage cars from the smoothside sets Kato released, close to 20 years ago I think.

I believe these are what you are looking for.

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Re: Amtrak Bagage Car
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2010, 11:28:27 PM »
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Con-Cor also has a two-door baggage car, not sure of the prototype but it's available in Amtrak.

Kato has also released at least two different single door versions.
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Re: Amtrak Bagage Car
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2010, 12:38:46 AM »
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How about the Walthers car?

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-55094

There is also Kato 106-3513 Smooth side Baggage Set. They only come in Phase I though.

It looks like they are sold out but we may have a set on the shelf at the shop.
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Re: Amtrak Bagage Car
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2010, 01:11:41 AM »
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"Apparently these were heritage cars that were converted to baggage duty."

Not the 1257.  Always has been a baggage car.  Built for ATSF as 3662 it became AMTK 1151 when sold, renumbered again when converted to HEP.

There were some leg-rest coaches in the 1700-series but there were a number of older baggage cars that were HEP'ed and remained in series beyond when most heritage cars were retired.  My suggestion would be the baggage car from the Kato El Capitan train but there are other options available as well.

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Re: Amtrak Bagage Car
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2010, 10:31:26 AM »
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How about the Walthers car?

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-55094

There is also Kato 106-3513 Smooth side Baggage Set. They only come in Phase I though.

It looks like they are sold out but we may have a set on the shelf at the shop.

I can't find the Con-Cor.  The Walthers and Kato (106-3512 actually) both look pretty good.  Sure they are Phase 1, but a Phase 1 baggage on a Phase 3 train would not be unusual at all.

I think I'll look around and see if I can find the Kato at a reasonable price.

Thanks guys!

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Re: Amtrak Bagage Car
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2010, 02:00:54 AM »
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"Sure they are Phase 1, but a Phase 1 baggage on a Phase 3 train would not be unusual at all."

One thing to remember... the earliest rebuilds had phase II paint, the red and blue stripes without the pointless arrow.

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Re: Amtrak Bagage Car
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2010, 06:37:29 PM »
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The KATO set is available on he auction site we don't mention

N SCALE KATO 106-3512 PASSENGER CAR SET C - AMTRAK PH 1

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Re: Amtrak Bagage Car
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2010, 09:16:05 PM »
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The KATO set is available on he auction site we don't mention

N SCALE KATO 106-3512 PASSENGER CAR SET C - AMTRAK PH 1

Its allowed here
I WANNA SEE THE BOAT MOVIE!

Yes... I'm in N... Also HO and 1:1

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Re: Amtrak Bagage Car
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2010, 10:14:33 PM »
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 :o

I'm bidding!  I don't need more competition!  ;D

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Re: Amtrak Bagage Car
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2010, 11:03:52 PM »
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Is $45 for a phase I set too much, if you're interested let me know ..... new in box unused

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Re: Amtrak Bagage Car
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2010, 11:05:39 PM »
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they are in Canada

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Re: Amtrak Bagage Car
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2010, 10:34:45 PM »
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Well, I'm not sure I got a deal, but I'm doing the ebay win happy dance.   :D

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Re: Amtrak Bagage Car
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2010, 01:46:05 AM »
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If you're feeling ambitious, M&R makes a nice set of etched sides for the more common converted 1700 series (centered door, 85') baggage cars. Sold by N Scale Supply: http://www.nscalesupply.com/MRS/MRS-133.html. I have a couple sets but have not put any together yet. I have seen them built up and they are nice. Needs a Con-Cor Budd car donor. One of the Kato Budds would work too I'm sure. These are the cars you usually see on the long distance superliner trains. There are also two-door cars that are used just as much if not more.

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Re: Amtrak Bagage Car
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2010, 03:01:36 PM »
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I got my e-bay find today.  Why these are packaged as a two-pack when most trains had one is beyond me.

So now I have what I feel is a prototypical consist:

P42
2 Door Baggage
Superliner Sleeper
Superliner Sleeper
Superliner Dining
Superliner Lounge
Superliner Coach
Superliner Coach

I have an extra coach so I can make it 3 Coaches as well.  That's pretty much the usual consist of the City of New Orleans near me, with 2 or 3 coaches depending on time of year.

Next step, sound decoder install in the P42; and then I need to think about how to light the red lights on the rear car.