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Re: Nomination for Biggest POS: 2009
« Reply #75 on: December 30, 2009, 07:17:30 PM »
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an expanded time frame (2000-2009) qualifying the original 'steaming yard loaf' its no contest.  IM Tunnel Motors with twisted glue blob cab, doorknob sized rivets, and so many other errors I'm still counting remains the overall champion as POS of the decade...
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Re: Nomination for Biggest POS: 2009
« Reply #76 on: December 30, 2009, 11:55:08 PM »
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Gotta hand it to ya on that one Tivo...... A serious "Yard Loaf" for the money.   :(

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Re: Nomination for Biggest POS: 2009
« Reply #77 on: December 31, 2009, 03:29:29 AM »
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an expanded time frame (2000-2009) qualifying the original 'steaming yard loaf' its no contest.  IM Tunnel Motors with twisted glue blob cab, doorknob sized rivets, and so many other errors I'm still counting remains the overall champion as POS of the decade...

I'll second that.
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Re: Nomination for Biggest POS: 2009
« Reply #78 on: December 31, 2009, 07:48:07 AM »
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Well, if you're expanding to decades biggest POS, then Atlas code 55 under-the-table switch machines need to be featured prominently.

Not easy to install, ridiculous to line-up, easy to burn-out...They must have been the product of Satan himself...

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Re: Nomination for Biggest POS: 2009
« Reply #79 on: December 31, 2009, 09:16:23 AM »
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Wasn't this thread started to choose from the pool of items introduced this year, as opposed to items already in existence a year ago?
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Re: Nomination for Biggest POS: 2009
« Reply #80 on: December 31, 2009, 09:39:17 AM »
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Wasn't this thread started to choose from the pool of items introduced this year, as opposed to items already in existence a year ago?


Severe thread drift. Soon it will encompass the previous century as well. :P

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Re: Nomination for Biggest POS: 2009
« Reply #81 on: December 31, 2009, 10:17:39 AM »
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Yeah, that Ives boxcab from 1928 is a total piece of crap.  I mean really, when the model's that big, it should have real rivets!

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Re: Nomination for Biggest POS: 2009
« Reply #82 on: December 31, 2009, 10:23:09 AM »
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Know what you mean Lee.  Way back when I was on a wagon train heading west, I was very disappointed in using cactus for whittling cars.  Stick with pine. ;D

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Re: Nomination for Biggest POS: 2009
« Reply #83 on: December 31, 2009, 10:44:40 AM »
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Yes, the MTL flange issue was an even BIGGER problem before the wheel was invented....
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Re: Nomination for Biggest POS: 2009
« Reply #84 on: December 31, 2009, 11:40:04 AM »
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Re: Nomination for Biggest POS: 2009
« Reply #85 on: December 31, 2009, 11:59:41 AM »
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Guess we skipped right over Jesus' benchwork skills....
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Re: Nomination for Biggest POS: 2009
« Reply #86 on: December 31, 2009, 01:40:31 PM »
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With
an expanded time frame (2000-2009) qualifying the original 'steaming yard loaf' its no contest.  IM Tunnel Motors with twisted glue blob cab, doorknob sized rivets, and so many other errors I'm still counting remains the overall champion as POS of the decade...

Sounds hideous. LOL

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Re: Nomination for Biggest POS: 2009
« Reply #87 on: December 31, 2009, 01:57:34 PM »
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You know, I just don't get all the raggin' on the IM tunnel motors and SD45-2's, and some of you guys just don't let up about it. I have two 45-2's and a TM, and they all run fine and look fine, thankyouverymuch. The TM especially has detailing that makes me smile in the recollection of the many firsthand experiences of the real thing, when they were new, in their nature-intended operating setting, the Tehachapis.

Sure, maybe I needed to put a drop or two of CA on the TM to keep the handrails on during handling, but they're all a damnsight better in paint and detailing than the umpteen Katos I have, and pull just as well. Again, I just don't get all the angst.

Just my vote that IM's TM's are most definitely not the "POS of the decade". Sheesh.  >:(
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Re: Nomination for Biggest POS: 2009
« Reply #88 on: December 31, 2009, 04:36:47 PM »
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You know, I just don't get all the raggin' on the IM tunnel motors and SD45-2's, and some of you guys just don't let up about it.
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Just my vote that IM's TM's are most definitely not the "POS of the decade". Sheesh.  >:(

Apparently
forgiveness is possible if you missed the over-hyped, under-discounted, largest 'swing-and-a-miss' at a pitch obviously in the dirt of the decade.  Manufacturer (and PWRS drones) claims that this would be completely accurate for SP an any statement that opposed this was just trying to foul thier sales.  Only problem there was that they relesed the models and customers could see for themselves.  Subsequent runs (an an IM shell replacement proram) addressed some issues like cab fit, horn blobs and glue body filler but unique SP details never materialized.  The 'Colorado Effect' meant that all SD40T-2s are correctly detailed for DRGW with incorrectly applied SP paint.  While these models somewhat resemble actual SP locos, once the details are examined it continues to dissapoint even today. 

The SD45T-2 was somewhat better as there was no DRGW equivalent that could be used in getting it wrong.  Some of the SD40T-2 uproar may have something to do with that.  As a SP modeler I need these, and will rework mine to be more acurate while I continue raggin' in IM at every opportunity.  Unfortunately Atlas, Kato, FVM, Bachmann and other quality manufacturers will now avoid these because a merely OK model was produced...

As the 'Candlelight Vigill' organizer for this model during its months of initial delays and among the first to cry foul at release I believe that I can claim a unique perspective...
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Re: Nomination for Biggest POS: 2009
« Reply #89 on: December 31, 2009, 06:26:50 PM »
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So, am I to understand that with the InterMountain T-motors the mechanisms (which would be most difficult to address) are fine, but the bodyshell details (which are the easiest to alter) are not to your liking?
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