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How do YOU mount trailers on TOFC flats?
« on: December 02, 2009, 02:56:53 PM »
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This is definitely a  >:( and  ??? issue for me. So pardon my thinking out loud.

I'm trying to build an all-TOFC train typical of the early '70s: 89' flats with 30-40' trailers. Except for 4 Con-Cor flats on the bench for detailing, I have a boatload of MTLs.

Problem I'm having is mounting the trailers reliably enough for club running. You know, where you're in situations where the track is not flawless and mirror-smooth like on your own layout  ;) , and the too-frequent derailment litters trailers everywhere for your ham-fisted buddies to "try and help", but they break-off the kingpin stands and landing gear on half your fleet? I want the trailers to stay on the flats for nearly every situation save falling to the floor. But without permanent attachment.

Yeah, I know that some glue them on (white glue), but my preference is to mix the consist up a little without a trip to the workbench. Just in test fitting I've already run into bugs with Athearn trailers (for example), where the kingpin is slightly too big for the stand. So if I ream out the stand for the Athearns, the handful of MTL trailers will suddenly be too loose. Then there's the need for something other than gravity to hold the wheels down.

As if I need another project, I'm entertaining the possibility of cutting off the stock kingpin nubs on everything and doing my own design, possibly a cheesehead screw as a kingpin and tiny neodymium magnet under the wheels for a matching bit of steel on the car. That's a lot of work, tho', when in the end we're talking 50-60 trailers.

Anybody else have a happier solution?
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Re: How do YOU mount trailers on TOFC flats?
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2009, 03:04:21 PM »
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Walthers GOO would probably work . Or that new stuff to stick folks on a layout .


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Re: How do YOU mount trailers on TOFC flats?
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2009, 03:34:01 PM »
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If you're using MTL trailers on MTL TOFC flats, you can "press" the little pegs that represent the part that matches up with the fifth wheels into the plastic cast fifth wheels.

It's not perfect, but it's kept the trailers on for my various derailments over the years.

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Re: How do YOU mount trailers on TOFC flats?
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2009, 03:58:01 PM »
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you could use DI container glue to put the trailers on the cars.

http://www.modeltrainstuff.com/Deluxe_Innovations_N_Removable_Container_Glue_p/dlx-990101.htm
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Re: How do YOU mount trailers on TOFC flats?
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2009, 03:58:31 PM »
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Yeah, Ed, that's the bug - it only works MTL-to-MTL. The Athearn kingpins are ever-so-slightly bigger.

I will probably sleep on it tonight some more. I'm wavering right now towards "Oh, just screw it!!!"... literally... putting a screw through the bottom of the car under the trailer wheels and calling it a day, unscrew if I want to change the mix. An 0-80 or 00-90 would be small enough for the resulting holes in the unladen flat to look OK, like it was intended. Then I can drill the stand to fit the bigger kingpins.

Richie, I haven't used GOO in over 35 years. Talk about a smell that'll take me back, tho'! (In more ways than one.  ;D )
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Re: How do YOU mount trailers on TOFC flats?
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2009, 04:03:34 PM »
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In the privacy of my terminal. ;D
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Re: How do YOU mount trailers on TOFC flats?
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2009, 04:15:30 PM »
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you could use DI container glue to put the trailers on the cars.

http://www.modeltrainstuff.com/Deluxe_Innovations_N_Removable_Container_Glue_p/dlx-990101.htm

That looks a lot like the stuff they've been using at work for christmas decorations. I may give that a go since Tacky glue seems to want to take a little bit paint of.

Yeah, Ed, that's the bug - it only works MTL-to-MTL. The Athearn kingpins are ever-so-slightly bigger.

Have you tried filling the Athearn kingpin down some, or making the MTL kingpins bigger?
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Re: How do YOU mount trailers on TOFC flats?
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2009, 05:38:49 PM »
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I love Walthers Goo! It's one of my favorite adhesives.

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Re: How do YOU mount trailers on TOFC flats?
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2009, 04:43:15 PM »
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Re: How do YOU mount trailers on TOFC flats?
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2009, 04:51:29 PM »
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Beeswax

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