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Re: December Micro Trains...
« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2009, 07:44:24 PM »
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Never seen a DI boxcar with a PS1 end like the ones featured on both boxcar prototype photo links posted in this thread...

That's because the pics are of prototypes that the MTL-20000 car is based on, to show the schemes prototypically appropriate for the MTL model.
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Re: December Micro Trains...
« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2009, 08:40:50 PM »
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I have more information to share on the elusive B&O PS-1.

B&O did not have a true PS-1 boxcar except for some aquired late in the 50's from another railroad. They did have M-67 boxcars built using PS-1 parts but they were home built with 10' internal height. These were built in '56-57 from kits at B&O shops. All general service cars on the B&O were 10' inside height except for a fleet of M-59 automobile boxcars that were in special service. The M-55 car in question is actually based on 1937 ARR design with a unique roof, ends, ladders and a Duryea underframe. This car is very unique to the B&O and something that will more than likely never be seen in N. IM makes sides in HO and N that are a close match, but the roof and end options are still not available to create a correct M-55.

(Condensed info from a post on the B&O N-Scale Yahoo Group - Posted by Bob Witt, B&O freight car historian)

The M-55 that MT is using as a basis for the paint is such a unique animal that I don't forsee it being done in anything but resin, so having an RTR close enough is about as good as it is going to get in the forseeable future.
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Re: December Micro Trains...
« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2009, 09:57:51 PM »
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RE:  The WWII Military Barracks.  I'm looking at the end with the two small porches and the fire escape and thinking that part looks really great.  What they missed was the small roof overhangs on the sides between floors and on the ends above the windows.  I remember all the barracks at Lackland AFB in basic training in the 60s had them, and I saw barracks at Altus AFB in the early 80s (Still in use at the time) which also had them.  Check this out... http://worldwar2pilot.blogspot.com/2008/11/post-2-farming-during-drought.html 

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Re: December Micro Trains...
« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2009, 09:59:59 PM »
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Further on the barracks -- I think nearly all of them had the two doors on one side.  The short end of the building to the left of the doors was the latrine/showers.  The door next to that led to the upstairs open bunk bay, the second door led into the downstairs bay.

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Re: December Micro Trains...
« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2009, 07:12:56 AM »
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What they missed was the small roof overhangs on the sides between floors and on the ends above the windows.  I remember all the barracks at Lackland AFB in basic training in the 60s had them, and I saw barracks at Altus AFB in the early 80s (Still in use at the time) which also had them.  Check this out... http://worldwar2pilot.blogspot.com/2008/11/post-2-farming-during-drought.html  


I agree, this spotting feature is what I remember most of the old WW2 barracks that were all over the army bases I spent time on.. however, there are examples of the style they used online






But this is the more common type





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Re: December Micro Trains...
« Reply #35 on: November 30, 2009, 09:22:15 PM »
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These look most familiar to me (east coast):



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Re: December Micro Trains...
« Reply #36 on: November 30, 2009, 10:12:32 PM »
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Anyone have a pic of this monster?

499-90-905    Lasercut Wood Kit: Two-Story Military Barracks   

I went to the website and didnt see anything there. If this is what I think it is...any of you east coasters should have about 2 to 3 minimum if you're modeling a military base of a facsimile there-of!

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You'll find a pic here: http://blwnscale.com/mt-new.htm

It's ok for modernized barracks (ie. redid the siding) a ala Ft Benning. But they are not correct for most of the WWII era barracks that survived till well today a la Ft. Indiantown Gap, the model is missing the awning/roof between the first and second floor windows. Excitement wasted.

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Re: December Micro Trains...
« Reply #37 on: November 30, 2009, 10:29:01 PM »
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Hey Joe, someone screwed up - you guys released this in black. Imagine that - a black tank car!



Looking forward to the quite common SHPX. ;)

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Re: December Micro Trains...
« Reply #38 on: November 30, 2009, 10:39:29 PM »
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Re: December Micro Trains...
« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2009, 06:59:25 AM »
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It's ok for modernized barracks (ie. redid the siding) a ala Ft Benning. But they are not correct for most of the WWII era barracks that survived till well today a la Ft. Indiantown Gap, the model is missing the awning/roof between the first and second floor windows. Excitement wasted.

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Most humans don't have any idea what a Fort Indiantown Gap is. Unfortunately, I know it too well. I couldn't tell you if the buildings there originally had the awnings or not when they were built in 41.  The interesting thing about the barracks on "The Gap" is that they were originally designed to last 5 years, which is why they have a "T" as part of the building number i.e. T-12-54. Although more than half are now gone, the survivors lasted 12 times longer than they should have!

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Re: December Micro Trains...
« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2009, 07:52:58 AM »
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It's ok for modernized barracks (ie. redid the siding) a ala Ft Benning. But they are not correct for most of the WWII era barracks that survived till well today a la Ft. Indiantown Gap, the model is missing the awning/roof between the first and second floor windows. Excitement wasted.

The S.


Most humans don't have any idea what a Fort Indiantown Gap is. Unfortunately, I know it too well. I couldn't tell you if the buildings there originally had the awnings or not when they were built in 41.  The interesting thing about the barracks on "The Gap" is that they were originally designed to last 5 years, which is why they have a "T" as part of the building number i.e. T-12-54. Although more than half are now gone, the survivors lasted 12 times longer than they should have!

Rich. (Thankful that I no longer work on "The Gap")  ;D

I'll be up there at the end of January with my GPW (hopefully, need to get trailoring items). I think some of the mattresses there have been around since '41.

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Re: December Micro Trains...
« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2009, 08:50:37 AM »
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Here's my dad in 1952 in front his barrack somewhere in W. Germany in 1952.  I can't imagine that the army allowed for much creative license in its architecture... note there is no awning between the first and second floors...

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Re: December Micro Trains...
« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2009, 10:05:56 AM »
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There used to be more creative license then there is now.  When I worked cor the Corps of Engineers (2001-2005) there were manuals several inches thick full of specs for barracks.  Aside from the buiilding itself, you have to have force protection set-backs, and most bases are now aggressive about environmental sustainability.  There are more LEED-certified building on DOD property these days then out in the private sector.

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Re: December Micro Trains...
« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2009, 01:22:08 PM »
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All the commentary reinforces my belief there are quite a few B&O  N people out there, dying for a manufacturer to come out with specific B&O prototypes. Quite an untapped market. Plus other people would get a few for spicing up their rosters with interchange traffic.

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Re: December Micro Trains...
« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2009, 04:52:23 PM »
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