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Erik W

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My layout's 5 year anniversary - photos
« on: January 31, 2009, 01:24:20 PM »
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Five years ago today I became a model railroader.  January 31st, 2004 I borrowed a friend and his pick up truck to buy lumber at the area Home Depot.  Before that I hadn't really thought about trains much since my late childhood 25 years ago.  What rekindled my interest after all those years was stumbling onto a Classic Trains magazine at a local book store.  For some reason, rather than just flipping through the magazine, I purchased it.  The rest, as they say, is history.  So, here are some new photos I just took of the layout.  The layout loosely represents the portion of the D&RGW between the east portal of the Moffat Tunnel and Denver, Colorado as seen in October of 1956.

I'll apologize for the photo quality up front.  The layout lighting is fine my but lighting for anything other than macro photography is lacking.

The first five photos give you a good overview of the whole layout.


This is the Denver leg of the layout.  The area I'm poised to start scenery on now.


The middle mountain section.


The Moffat Tunnel east portal.


A view looking down the length of the 14' leg towards the 12' long Denver leg.


The 3 track hidden staging yard buried in the mountains.


An F7 led eastbound freight exiting the Moffat Tunnel.


The eastbound freight continuing down grade.


FT led westbound freight waiting in the hole at Crescent Siding for the eastbound freight.


The eastbound freight meeting the westbound freight at Crescent Siding.


The eastbound freight descending past Crescent Siding.


The eastbound F3 led California Zephyr crosses over South Boulder Creek as it passes the tail end of a westbound freight waiting for the Zephyr at Crescent Siding.


The eastbound California Zephyr crossing Coal Creek as it heads over Hwy 72.


The California Zephyr arriving on the outskirts of Denver.


Our Eastbound freight arrives at Denver's Burnham Yard.


A freight working its way through Denver.


Lastly, a shot of the locomotive facilities.

It's been quite an experience.  All in all I’d say I’m happy with my efforts, not too shabby for my first layout.  There is still plenty to do, structures to build, scenery to add, etc.  I’ve learned a lot along the way and have compiled the list below over time on what I’d do better next time around.  It’s a self critique and obviously may not apply to others or their efforts.  My advice to anyone who is sitting on the sidelines with an urge to get into model railroading is, jump right in.  The real fun comes from doing.

Things I'll do differently on the next layout

1.  Make the base layout height chest level, 54 inches (currently 42 inches).  This will enhance realism by bringing the layout closer to eye level.

2.  Make all the passing sidings exactly the same length.  If one is an inch or two shorter than the others, it does matter as far as maximum train length goes.

3.  Use real photos to reference while painting the backdrop.  This should help achieve more realistic backdrop scenery and clouds.

4.  Match the backdrop colors more closely to the scenery colors by purchasing the scenery materials before the backdrop has been started and then match the backdrop paint to the materials.

5.  Pay close attention to what the real scenery colors look like for the location and season to be modeled.  Purchase accordingly.

6.  Have the scenery form blend into the backdrop in a realistic, believable manner, rather then just end at the highest point of the landform into the backdrop.  This will make the scenery /backdrop transition more seamless.

7.  Use a more realistic base color to paint the scenery.  If a bare area shows through, a more realistic base color will look more believable.

8.  Be sure to make the terrain features as believable as the situation allows.  Try to keep the interaction between mountains, bridges, roads and waterways realistic.   

9.  When modeling a rocky location use more rock molds.  Don’t skimp.  The believability and realism will be greatly enhanced by having more rock faces, especially in vertical or near vertical areas.

10. Have less ground foam coverage.  Leave more ground surface exposed.  This is more realistic in rocky type terrain.  Vegetation coverage is not very uniform in the real world.

11. Be careful when using ground foam on extremely steep surfaces.  In the real world soil and vegitation rarely collects on these types of areas.

12. Have a larger staging yard.  A larger yard equals more trains!

Erik
« Last Edit: January 31, 2009, 01:37:18 PM by Erik W »

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Re: My layout's 5 year anniversary - photos
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2009, 03:27:58 PM »
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Very nice work, but the trains would have looked far nicer if those two steamers in the roundhouse in the last photo were leading the trains shown! I would imagine the Bachmann Heavy Mountain is pretty close to the D&RGW's 4-8-2's,and of course the Athearn Challenger comes in Rio Grande, even if the D&RGW didn't like 'em and sold them to the Clinchfield.  ;) ;D

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Re: My layout's 5 year anniversary - photos
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2009, 03:47:48 PM »
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If I remember right those steamers are just tenders to fill the roundhouse. I wish I could get a layout to look 1/4 that complete.

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Re: My layout's 5 year anniversary - photos
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2009, 03:53:28 PM »
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I like mountains! 8)


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Re: My layout's 5 year anniversary - photos
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2009, 03:55:52 PM »
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Beautiful work. You should be very proud of your accomplishments.
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Re: My layout's 5 year anniversary - photos
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2009, 03:56:07 PM »
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2.  Make all the passing sidings exactly the same length.  If one is an inch or two shorter than the others, it does matter as far as maximum train length goes.

Some sidings can be longer than others, but your shortest siding will define maximum train length.

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7.  Use a more realistic base color to paint the scenery.  If a bare area shows through, a more realistic base color will look more believable.
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10. Have less ground foam coverage.  Leave more ground surface exposed.  This is more realistic in rocky type terrain.  Vegetation coverage is not very uniform in the real world.

At my club we take a layered approach to scenery. Once the plaster layer is down, (for dirt areas) we paint it with a light brown/tan, and apply a layer of very fine sifted sand. (use a tea strainer, or another trick we've used is to put sand in a jar and shake it out through an old piece of pantyhose material) After that's dried, then start with ground foam and grass layers. Leaving bare spots creates nice dirt/sandy areas.

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12. Have a larger staging yard.  A larger yard equals more trains!

When it comes to staging, bigger is better! Staging tracks don't really need to be any longer than your passing sidings, but more tracks accomodates more trains. :)

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Re: My layout's 5 year anniversary - photos
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2009, 04:36:54 PM »
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Magnificent work. I especially like the mountain contours--very natural.

A track plan would be much appreciated!

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Re: My layout's 5 year anniversary - photos
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2009, 05:01:55 PM »
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Tres magnifique', Erik!
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Re: My layout's 5 year anniversary - photos
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2009, 05:38:50 PM »
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Outstanding .


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Re: My layout's 5 year anniversary - photos
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2009, 05:56:34 PM »
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I'll apologize for the photo quality up front.  The layout lighting is fine my but lighting for anything other than macro photography is lacking.

No need to apologize for anything. In fact, you may be interested in seeing what can be done with good photos like yours...


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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2009, 07:15:30 PM »
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GREAT work Erik! 
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Re: My layout's 5 year anniversary - photos
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2009, 07:22:29 PM »
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That last shot that David quotes tells me that you have your layout at the right height now.  I can imagine myself sitting on that futon with a chilled adult beverage, enjoying the tantalizing scene you've created.  I would add structure and other exterior lighting, and a dimmer for the room lights...

My only other suggestion can still be put into play... I'm sure that Denver isn't flat as a pancake... Add some terrain to elevate the buildings, and add some higher elevations on the city backdrop... 

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Re: My layout's 5 year anniversary - photos
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2009, 09:21:18 PM »
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Guys,

Thanks for the praise.  As far as inspiration from a group goes, you guys have been my biggest.  You all excel in different areas and it's been fun to see you guys push the envelope.  Your work and ideas has really inspired me to put my best foot forward.  I'm just glad I can come along for the ride and contribute something myself. 

David the blending of those two photos rocks!  I would've taken the photo of the Moffat Tunnel end of the layout from the same angle but there is a very large steel pole holding the house up that would've blocked the view!

Believe it or not Lee, Denver is nearly as flat as a pancake.  The eastern half of Colorado is nearly flat.  The mountains rise up rather dramatically just west of Denver.  Check out the photos in this link.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver,_CO 

That said, my city has track at three different levels, only 3/4" difference, but enough to be visually interesting.  As far as the backdrop goes, the view is to the east where the plains are flat.  I do plan on adding some undulations to the terrain with Scuptamold.

FYI, as most of you know Mike Danneman is modeling the same section of the D&RGW as I am (with much more accuracy and prototype fidelity).  He has nailed the look of this area perfectly.  You can definitely tell he has the eye of a professional artist.  His new backdrop book is superb and has many photos of his layout compared to the real thing.  I'd recommend it for anyone interested in the ins and outs of backdrops.

Erik



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Re: My layout's 5 year anniversary - photos
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2009, 09:41:30 PM »
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Believe it or not Lee, Denver is nearly as flat as a pancake.  The eastern half of Colorado is nearly flat.  The mountains rise up rather dramatically just west of Denver. 

Yeah, that's really strange, huh? I had to make a connection in Denver on my way to South Dakota a few years back; having never been there, I was looking forward to catching a glimpse of Denver, thinking it was somehow perched on the slopes of dramatic mountains... boy, was I surprised to land on a boring, endless plane, like an unadorned sheet of plywood.

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Re: My layout's 5 year anniversary - photos
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2009, 10:08:04 PM »
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(reposting here what I posted to Erik W on the A-board):

You are modest. I have been following your postings and Trainboard album over time, and I always enjoy every post. I think your layout is very very good, and in my humble opinion, your layout compares quite favorably with Mike Danneman's DRGW layout.

Keep us updated, and looking forward to your next post. Thx for sharing, I've always been inspired by your work :-)
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