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Decals for Walther's 10-6 Passenger Cars
« on: July 31, 2008, 10:59:14 PM »
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Received my 10-6 from Walther's last week.  Today the decals came.  I got the PRR cars and they have 18 car names on the decal sheetfor these.  Sheet also has names/numbers for SP, UP and a couple other RR's I'm not familiar with. 
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Re: Decals for Walther's 10-6 Passenger Cars
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2008, 08:05:07 AM »
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Those other RR's are probably the roads with thru cars that ran on the Pennsy. You may also see L&N in there.

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Re: Decals for Walther's 10-6 Passenger Cars
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2008, 03:42:57 PM »
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Those other RR's are probably the roads with thru cars that ran on the Pennsy. You may also see L&N in there.



That would not make any sense to me. N&W and ACL I think bought these, and N&W's were lettered "NORFOLK AND WESTERN" not Pennsy.


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Re: Decals for Walther's 10-6 Passenger Cars
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2008, 04:52:07 PM »
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unless (I'm kinda slow today) they did one decal sheet for all the roads.

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Re: Decals for Walther's 10-6 Passenger Cars
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2008, 04:58:50 PM »
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I scanned the decal.  Here it is.


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Re: Decals for Walther's 10-6 Passenger Cars
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2008, 05:50:16 PM »
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The number preceding the names tells you which model the names are for. For example, the PRR car is 932-55037. All you need to do is check out the Walthers website to see what belongs where.

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Re: Decals for Walther's 10-6 Passenger Cars
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2008, 09:16:40 PM »
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Oh, so they put all the roads on one decal sheet.  My bad. I was kinda hoping to have alot more car names than that. Oh well, I was kinda hoping they would do some C&O cities closer to me. 

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Re: Decals for Walther's 10-6 Passenger Cars
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2008, 12:24:22 AM »
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   Walthers sure could have done better research on some of these names. I went to their site and attempted to match the names on the sheet with item numbers some match some don't. 32 is listed as Santa Fe,but the names on the sheet are all Utah Place Names which could be used om Rio Grande cars although their light weight sleepers were named for famous Utah and Colorado historical figures IE: Brigham Yopung, David Moffet. There are no numbers for NP on the sheet,UP "Saint" names do not match anything UP had light weight or heavyweight. The name Saint George is that of a Utah city but nowhere near any railroad UP or otherwise. Better choices for names would have been Pacific Series names found on Budd 10-6 cars or Placid Series names found on smoothside all bedroom cars. The names with "Fort' infront of them are listed by Walthers as Rio Grande, these names however might have been found on RI Rocky Mt. Rocket cars, but the type face is all wrong. There are names with RI typeface,like "Bird City" but they don't match RI car names. The C&O names in Cities series are correct for C&O fluted side 10-6 cars. The SP numbers appear to be correct also Golden series names as used on the Golden State train, but not on 10-6 cars. Smooth side 10-6 cars had numbers and were used on Overland route first in UP Yellow then later Silver with scarlett letterboard scheme. 33 is listed as C&NW. The names appear to possibly match names used on heavyweight cars, but not lightweight cars, which had Northern series names, or American or Western Series for cars used on UP trains. The PRR Rapids Series names are the most correct for the PRR based smoothside model car. 42 is NYC and may be somewhat correct, didn't dig out my NYC sources. No Amquack (Trak) names on the sheet, and of course no Southern, L&N or ACL yet. 31 GN is can't read the names on the sheet reproduction so I don't  know about correctness.        Nate Goodman (Nato).

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Re: Decals for Walther's 10-6 Passenger Cars
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2008, 07:43:44 AM »
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You can't even see the GN on the sheet.  Would need a mighty powerful magnifiying glass.

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Re: Decals for Walther's 10-6 Passenger Cars
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2008, 09:55:04 AM »
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   Walthers sure could have done better research on some of these names. I went to their site and attempted to match the names on the sheet with item numbers some match some don't. 32 is listed as Santa Fe,but the names on the sheet are all Utah Place Names which could be used om Rio Grande cars although their light weight sleepers were named for famous Utah and Colorado historical figures IE: Brigham Yopung, David Moffet. There are no numbers for NP on the sheet,UP "Saint" names do not match anything UP had light weight or heavyweight. The name Saint George is that of a Utah city but nowhere near any railroad UP or otherwise. Better choices for names would have been Pacific Series names found on Budd 10-6 cars or Placid Series names found on smoothside all bedroom cars. The names with "Fort' infront of them are listed by Walthers as Rio Grande, these names however might have been found on RI Rocky Mt. Rocket cars, but the type face is all wrong. There are names with RI typeface,like "Bird City" but they don't match RI car names. The C&O names in Cities series are correct for C&O fluted side 10-6 cars. The SP numbers appear to be correct also Golden series names as used on the Golden State train, but not on 10-6 cars. Smooth side 10-6 cars had numbers and were used on Overland route first in UP Yellow then later Silver with scarlett letterboard scheme. 33 is listed as C&NW. The names appear to possibly match names used on heavyweight cars, but not lightweight cars, which had Northern series names, or American or Western Series for cars used on UP trains. The PRR Rapids Series names are the most correct for the PRR based smoothside model car. 42 is NYC and may be somewhat correct, didn't dig out my NYC sources. No Amquack (Trak) names on the sheet, and of course no Southern, L&N or ACL yet. 31 GN is can't read the names on the sheet reproduction so I don't  know about correctness.        Nate Goodman (Nato).

Wow , thats a ton of very particular info on so many roads for one person to know about . I am impressed Nato .

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Re: Decals for Walther's 10-6 Passenger Cars
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2008, 12:31:03 PM »
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I scanned the decal.  Here it is.



Bob, link says file is no longer there.

Would you please email it to me at jerry@pennsyrr.com.

I'd like to add it to the PRR Varnish database, which lists what models and decals are available for the Pennsy's vast fleet!

Thanks.
Jerry Britton, PRRT&HS #6111
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Re: Decals for Walther's 10-6 Passenger Cars
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2008, 01:07:32 AM »
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   Thanks! As a longtime Passenger Train Buff (Fanzee) with a ton of refference books and many passenger trains ,some incorrect Con Cor LTD. Edition sets,I still don't claim to know it all,read my posting about the C&EI diesel to see how little we sometimes know. Nate Goodman (Nato).

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Re: Decals for Walther's 10-6 Passenger Cars
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2008, 08:44:00 AM »
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Almost makes me wonder if they just did the sheets on the fly at the last minute. It would be interesting to compare wuith the car names released for the HO version.

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Re: Decals for Walther's 10-6 Passenger Cars
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2008, 08:09:36 PM »
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I scanned the decal.  Here it is.
Bob, the NYC car names are not visible on your scan. They are at 55042.
Can you tell me:
1. Is the printing white or aluminum? (should be aluminum)
2. Are the names in the "River-series"? (e.g., Mohawk River)
Thanks, Mike K
Modeling the NYC of the early 1950s

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Re: Decals for Walther's 10-6 Passenger Cars
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2008, 09:32:22 PM »
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Those NYC names are very hard to see.  Quite small.  I managed to see that they are listed as River series.   I would have to place one on a car or piece of plastic to really see if they are white or silver.  Just too hard to tell on the sheet.
Bob