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How about a kitbashing challenge??
« on: April 18, 2008, 04:44:03 PM »
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I was looking on the Railway Preservation forum, where there was a discussion about "hand lettering" the real thing. The following car was mentioned as a hand lettered car:

http://www.irm.org/cgi-bin/image.pl?conf=img800&img=/gallery/albums/CPVX101/aaa.sized.jpg

I have always wondered why no one has made a two dome car. If you look closely at this car, it once carried three domes. With three domes, it would be very close to the new MTL car. Remove the center dome from the MTL car and this one is duplicated.

Hand lettering in N might be problematical, but if there is enough interest, we might convince one of the ALPS owning members to do the decals.

Anyone else interested?
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Re: How about a kitbashing challenge??
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2008, 04:51:09 PM »
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Hand lettered? As in, no stencils? That's impressive... not quite a car for me, but impressive.

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Re: How about a kitbashing challenge??
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2008, 01:32:37 PM »
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I've hand lettered just about everything that sits still the past 33 years I've been in business. Small letters are tough. Get some small good quality quills and One Shot lettering enamels and practice.

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Re: How about a kitbashing challenge??
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2008, 02:05:14 PM »
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I'll build one if somebody makes the decals  ;D

I may start with a Intermountain tankcar though, the tank looks smaller than MT's. BTW the MT car is supposed to have removable domes.

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Re: How about a kitbashing challenge??
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2008, 03:05:41 PM »
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BTW the MT car is supposed to have removable domes.

I will confirm that.  But you'd need to make the cover plate with the rivets (unless MT has a plug in the plans).

And if you want a closer look, take the 'sized' out of the url.

http://www.irm.org/cgi-bin/image.pl?conf=img800&img=/gallery/albums/CPVX101/aaa.jpg

I would be interested, but mines already slated for an SHPX version.

Jason

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Re: How about a kitbashing challenge??
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2008, 03:25:19 PM »
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I thought the ads showing the 3-dome in green raw plastic said something like "domes molded separately"  I could be wrong though.

I have one coming in the mail.


So who's making the decals?  :D

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Re: How about a kitbashing challenge??
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2008, 03:45:39 PM »
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I guess I wasn't very clear. :P

Yes, the domes are separate.




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Re: How about a kitbashing challenge??
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2008, 07:10:31 AM »
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So who's making the decals?  :D

are you etching the cover plate with the rivets... ?   :P


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Re: How about a kitbashing challenge??
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2008, 07:35:12 AM »
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Rivets...inies or outies?   :-*

Really there are probably few enough people interested in this that I could etch covers and even try to make them the right way.

Seriously I will buy these decals!

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Re: How about a kitbashing challenge??
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2008, 07:54:25 AM »
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More on the proto car.

I figure it is about 30' long and it says 6000 gallons. The Intermountain car is 36' long and 8000 gallons. The MT car is probably the same as their regular tank car 39'.

This one was made from a shortened IM car and is 30' long now:

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Re: How about a kitbashing challenge??
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2008, 08:06:05 AM »
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More on the proto car.

I figure it is about 30' long and it says 6000 gallons. The Intermountain car is 36' long and 8000 gallons. The MT car is probably the same as their regular tank car 39'.

This one was made from a shortened IM car and is 30' long now:


The new MTL car is significantly smaller than the single dome car.  Diameter of the tank is smaller, and it's shorter as well.  I'd have to measure, but it's probably about 30' of tank length. 
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Re: How about a kitbashing challenge??
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2008, 02:24:46 PM »
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Length of tank, 29' 6"
Diameter of tank, 6' 3"
Diameter of dome, 4'
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Re: How about a kitbashing challenge??
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2008, 06:14:02 PM »
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So who's making the decals?  :D

are you etching the cover plate with the rivets... ?   :P


(rav pre what ever sample)

Those look great, Steve, but there are more on the underframe that would be visible on a tank car. Count me in on this, I'd definitely buy the decals. I was planning to use aluminum foil over styrene for the rivets of the removed dome area, but I'd also be in for a dome cover if photoetched.
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Re: How about a kitbashing challenge??
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2008, 08:49:29 PM »
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My fibromyalgia's been very bad this week so I haven't even looked at the pic til right now.

It seems big enough that with a dimension or two it wouldn't be any trouble to make and print decals for the car and the underframe. Since I have an ALPS printer that wouldn't be any trouble to make them for those who are interested, as long as you'd understand it may take me awhile to get them done. Between work and not feeling well things can take some time with me.

Brian

PS: I'd love a set of etched outie riveted covers also.

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Re: How about a kitbashing challenge??
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2008, 03:12:46 PM »
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We also don't want to forget the lettering on the domes.  ;D

This also brings to question for me as to how many gallons it did hold?
Chris mentioned it at 6000 gals. but I don't see this on the car
anywhere. Dome A has 2412 gals and dome B has 2006 gals for a
total of 4418 leaving the center compartment at 1582 gals. So the
mystery for me is what is in the center? Or did they move the interior
bulkheads and leave the original capy of those two compartments? Or
was this car only 4418 gals give or take a few hundred. Because if you
look at the photo it has a bulkhead row of rivets just too the left of the
center dome. To make things even stranger is why is there a row of
rivets in the center that runs through the blanked out dome? If that
is the center bulkhead now then why the two different capy' for each
and wouldn't it be something closer to 3000 gals in each also for a 6000
gallon car.

Mystified and Confused!! ;D

I also would be in for a set of decals and etched dome covers with outies!!

Jon