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Fallen Flag cars in 1967
« on: December 17, 2007, 03:47:07 PM »
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I am trying to compile a list possible railroads that would have had freight cars in interchange service in 1967.  is it possible that the 1960 EL and 1963 N&W consolidations were recent enough that fallen flag cars were still in service in 1967?

i'm sure there were plenty of Erie and DL&W cars running around into the early 1970's, but how many P&WV, Wabash, or Nickel Plate cars were still roaming given their numbers. 

so far my list contains 58 railroads that were Class I status in 1967, but i'm sure i can include up to 65 if there were recent fallen flags still in service.

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Re: Fallen Flag cars in 1967
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2007, 04:04:42 PM »
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I am trying to compile a list possible railroads that would have had freight cars in interchange service in 1967.  is it possible that the 1960 EL and 1963 N&W consolidations were recent enough that fallen flag cars were still in service in 1967?

i'm sure there were plenty of Erie and DL&W cars running around into the early 1970's, but how many P&WV, Wabash, or Nickel Plate cars were still roaming given their numbers. 

so far my list contains 58 railroads that were Class I status in 1967, but i'm sure i can include up to 65 if there were recent fallen flags still in service.

-steve

For N&W: 1967? Absolutely - plenty of Wab and NKP, not so much P&WV.

For N&W: 1970s? Still ample NKP and Wab boxes, NKP hoppers. P&WV little if any.

I have actual data on the hoppers (as does Robb) if that is of interest.

As an aside some VGN hoppers survived in VGN paint into the 90s.

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Re: Fallen Flag cars in 1967
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2007, 04:13:48 PM »
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thanks - i have been watching a DVD set of PRR in 1967-68 trying to spot the various roadnames as the trains pass.  there were some cool logos and paint schemes running around back then...

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Re: Fallen Flag cars in 1967
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2007, 04:27:11 PM »
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Dont forget Lehigh and New England too...A few Erie and DL&W cars made it all the way to Conrail...
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Re: Fallen Flag cars in 1967
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2007, 04:44:59 PM »
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I can recall driving home from the office along Earhart Blvd. in New Orleans in the early 1970's and seeing a Pere Marquette boxcar on the IC local switch run that looked like it had been painted last year rather than before 1947, when the C&O fully absorbed the PM.

No need to compile a list, just buy a copy of an Offical Railway Equipment Register for a quarter in the year you're interested in. Many are now available as a CD.

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Re: Fallen Flag cars in 1967
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2007, 04:53:55 PM »
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I don't know how much May, 1965 on the CGW will help, but it's all I got.

One PWV

PWV   7664   G

Plenty of WAB and NKP.

There may be other roads in the same situation you could include from the midwest like L&M and MSTL.


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Re: Fallen Flag cars in 1967
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2007, 05:08:02 PM »
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No need to compile a list, just buy a copy of an Offical Railway Equipment Register for a quarter in the year you're interested in. Many are now available as a CD.


  ORERs are really handy, but they still don't tell you which specific road numbers were in operation, if you like that sort of thing.


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Re: Fallen Flag cars in 1967
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2007, 05:09:16 PM »
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BTW, my comments above are based on what I saw then.

To which I'll add that I certainly saw plenty of Lackawanna and Erie stuff in the late 1960s (this being on the N&W).
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Re: Fallen Flag cars in 1967
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2007, 05:53:58 PM »
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Here's one from taken in 1974 which you might like.