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Steerable Trucks
« on: October 23, 2007, 09:34:54 PM »
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Re: Steerable Trucks
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2007, 09:50:46 PM »
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Man, between the paint job and the "modifications" that has to be one of the ugliest locomotives I've ever seen.

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Re: Steerable Trucks
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2007, 09:55:59 PM »
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That's a narrow guage (3ft.) Diesel. There are no modifications, Montreal Locomotive specifically built them only for the WP&Y.

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Re: Steerable Trucks
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2007, 12:04:50 AM »
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Didn't these locomotives have standard Alco short hoods at one time?

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Re: Steerable Trucks
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2007, 01:21:29 AM »
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Says it was wrecked, maybe it got a new cab then?

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Re: Steerable Trucks
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2007, 07:12:34 AM »
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Re: Steerable Trucks
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2007, 03:29:13 PM »
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To add further to Robbmans answer, these are the 3rd order of DL535E's. The 1st was built by ALCO,with Century style low nose and pointed cabs. The 2nd was started by ALCO but finished by MLW and looked identical to the 1st order. The 3rd was all MLW with the wide nosed cabs.
Robbman, at the time these were built was it a law or some dictum from the Canadian gov't that all locomotives built in Canada or to be used in Canada were to be made with a "Safety Cab" (wide cab)? Joe Hueber <lv4142003>

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Re: Steerable Trucks
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2007, 03:43:05 PM »
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You could see why it needed a new cab in this shot after the wreck:

http://www.railpictures.net/images/images2/p/P1000773a_sml.JPG.66036.jpg

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Re: Steerable Trucks
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2007, 03:54:22 PM »
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Robbman, at the time these were built was it a law or some dictum from the Canadian gov't that all locomotives built in Canada or to be used in Canada were to be made with a "Safety Cab" (wide cab)? Joe Hueber <lv4142003>

Nope, no requirement.

Most Canadian railroads didn't do this. This was largely a CN policy that slowly got picked up by some others. The safety cabs showed up mostly on CN in the late 1970s-early 1980s on GP38-2Ws, GP40-2Ls, SD40-2Ws, and M420Ws. (CN designed the cab with GMDD and MLW. The first two engines were a GP38-2 and an M420W) British Columbia Railway also had some M420Ws and I believe some big M636Ws with the safety cab. GO Transit also purchased a few safety cab GP40-2s. Beyond that, that's pretty much it. Canadian Pacific never ordered anything with the CN style safety cab, although in the late 1980s they got some full cowl-body SD40-2Fs, similar to CN's SD50F and HR616 engines (and also SD60F, C40-8CM. BC Rail and Quebec, North Shore & Labrador also purchased cowl body C40-8CMs). Smaller roads like Algoma Central and Ontario Northland also did not buy anything with the safety cab option at this time, although both acquired GP38-2s around the early 1980s. (ONR later acquired some SD75is in 1999)

More recently, new engines for CN, CP, BC Rail and ONR were Dash-9s, AC4400CWs and SD75is on which the wide nose cabs became pretty standard. Algoma Central fell to Wisconsin Central in 1995 and never had any "wide-cab" power. Their only new acquisitions after the 1981 GP38-2s were a pair of secondhand rebuilt GP40s.

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Re: Steerable Trucks
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2007, 06:12:03 PM »
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9 months prior:  http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=173765&nseq=1

Edit: I didn't see anything after 3rdRail's post until posting myself.  Looks like I'm behind the times.
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Re: Steerable Trucks
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2007, 07:55:00 PM »
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9 months prior:  http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=173765&nseq=1

Edit: I didn't see anything after 3rdRail's post until posting myself.  Looks like I'm behind the times.

No problem.  Great minds think alike!   ;) ;D

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Re: Steerable Trucks
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2007, 06:05:46 AM »
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9 months prior:  http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=173765&nseq=1

Edit: I didn't see anything after 3rdRail's post until posting myself.  Looks like I'm behind the times.

No problem.  Great minds think alike!   ;) ;D
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