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Can anyone spare $1000...welll $1250 actually?
« on: January 20, 2007, 09:13:32 PM »
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I could really go one of these......

http://www.nscalesupply.com/KEY/KEY-4-10-2.html

Fantastic detail by the looks of things. How do the Key Imports generally run these days?

I think it's  something I'll just have to dream about, but I suppose if I used up my annual spend on just this, I could probably get away with it.

Of course it sounds even worse in Australian dollars...that's where the $1250 comes from. :)

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Re: Can anyone spare $1000...welll $1250 actually?
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2007, 09:24:21 PM »
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I had the UP 4-10-2 in HO . I should have hung on to those odd steamers as I don't expect I will see them in N .

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Re: Can anyone spare $1000...welll $1250 actually?
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2007, 11:19:49 PM »
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Those Key three cylinders run like Rolex's. Hey, it's only money! ;D

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Re: Can anyone spare $1000...welll $1250 actually?
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2007, 01:52:51 AM »
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   Mine runs as stated ,"Like a Swiss Watch" took foever to get one though,ordered through Caboose Hobbies, wsa able to get a model of the surviving loco that is preserved at the fair grounds in Pamona, CA. and has been modernized. ****Caution I did have a side rod come apart on the day I got my loco and was testing it. A small rivet was missing ,but I knew it would have to go back   to Key. Four weeks later and a call to Caboose in Denver my loco returned repaired and I have been keeping an eye out to insure it stays together. This loco is not for my layout's branch line with it's sharp curves  and the 18 radius curves on one of my mainlines is almost a tight fit,but not the 24 on my outer mainline. This is definately the most highly detailed N scale steam locomotive in either Brass or Plastique , the cord leading to the bell from the cab is even there, the footplate (deck) between engine and tender drops down into place when coupled together, tender can be coupled closer or farther apart, two positions on drawbar. Union Pacifich had      4-10-2 locomotives built to similar specs, wish Key would do them or better yet the 4-12-2 Union Pacific Type that this design lead to.  Nate Goodman (Nato). Salt Lake, Utah.

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Re: Can anyone spare $1000...welll $1250 actually?
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2007, 10:12:52 AM »
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I showed my wife the PRR Q2 that N Scale Supply was advertising for $1010. She was not amused.  :'(

Actually compared to the SP 4-10-2, you get two extra sets of cylinders and rods plus one more axle for only $10 more - now that's a bargain!  :D

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Re: Can anyone spare $1000...well $1250 actually?
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2007, 01:44:58 PM »
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The N scale Key Imports PRR Q2 is amazing:



Prototype shots:





Wish I had $1100 to burn and could afford one - I just know that you aren't going to see this particular model come around again in N scale anytime soon!

Oh well.

I wonder what the minimum radius is on the Q2. 

Got to be large radius, wouldn't be surprised if it was something like 20".

In case anybody is wondering, the Pennsy Q2 4-4-6-4 is one of the most powerful and modern steam locos ever built.   Unfortunately, the superior economics of diesel locomotives were already well under way by the time these were built in the Altoona Shops between Jan and June of 1945.   There is a book about the Pennsy Q2 called "Pennsy Q Class", by E. T. Harley, part of the PRR Classic Power series, published by N. J. International in Hicksville, NY.  The original edition 1982, and reprinted in 1997, 88 pages, all black and white photos.

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Re: Can anyone spare $1000...welll $1250 actually?
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2007, 03:12:39 PM »
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Yeah, its only money :o

I had to think about this model for three years before I finally pulled the trigger.  Its a More Co. Ltd. Northern Pacific Z-6 and its amazing!!

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Re: Can anyone spare $1000...welll $1250 actually?
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2007, 03:19:12 PM »
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Hegstad1, what is the minimum radius on that More Co. NP Z-6 Challenger?   :-)
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Re: Can anyone spare $1000...welll $1250 actually?
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2007, 04:11:17 PM »
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Hegstad1, what is the minimum radius on that More Co. NP Z-6 Challenger?   :-)

John,

I have not tested it yet but Hobby Smith who has them in stock tested them on 15" radius curves and #4 turnouts and said they ran great.

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Re: Can anyone spare $1000...well $1250 actually?
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2007, 06:33:03 PM »
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The N scale Key Imports PRR Q2 is amazing:


I wonder what the minimum radius is on the Q2. 

Got to be large radius, wouldn't be surprised if it was something like 20".

The Key Q2 will just make it around a 13 inch radius curve if the rear hole in the drawbar is used. They of course look better on 18 inch radius or broader curves. They run extremely smoothly and about the only thing you can hear is the sound of metal wheels on rails. The detail on this locomotive is simply amazing. Key even included the operating linkage for the three Detroit mechanical lubricators.

The prototype was an amazing locomotive. Keep in mind that while it had two sets of cylinders it wasn't articulated and had an unusual rigid frame 4-4-6-4 wheel arrangement. The locomotive and tender were 125 feet long and weighed over 1,000,000 pounds. It produced a starting tractive effort of 115,000 pounds and developed nearly 8,000 indicated horsepower at 55 mph.


Thankfully Key has produced outstanding models of Pennsy classes H8, H9, H10 2-8-0s, class I1 2-10-0s, class J1 2-10-4s, Class M1 4-8-2, and class T1 4-4-4-4 along with GG1 electrics. If you add to that Precision Scales class K4 4-6-2s, and Sunset Class S1 6-4-4-6 along with Minitrix class B6 0-6-0s, Kato/GHQ class L1 2-8-2s, Life-Like class HH1 2-8-8-2s and Con-Cor class N2 2-10-2s, those of us who model the Pennsy have been very fortunate.

Now if someone would only produce a class E6 4-4-2, class G4 4-6-0 and a Class S2 6-8-6 turbine.

Bob

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Re: Can anyone spare $1000...welll $1250 actually?
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2007, 10:38:37 PM »
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That nice big long tender could very well hold a sound system.  So don't count the Q out too soon.  With the current state of the art in sound any steam with big tenders are possible.

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Re: Can anyone spare $1000...welll $1250 actually?
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2007, 05:47:32 PM »
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Well, someone could spare the $1000 (or $1250 actually), as the SP 4-10-2 is no longer listed on the N Scale Supply website.  :o  The Q2, SP GS's and C&O Kanawha still are.

Those PECO turntables have saved me some big $$$.  ;D ;D ;D

Did find something I'd been looking for for a while on NSS's pre-owned, though, and ordered it.  8)

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Re: Can anyone spare $1000...welll $1250 actually?
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2007, 04:42:06 PM »
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Whats the min radius recommended on your Z-6?




Yeah, its only money :o

I had to think about this model for three years before I finally pulled the trigger.  Its a More Co. Ltd. Northern Pacific Z-6 and its amazing!!

Andrew



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Re: Can anyone spare $1000...welll $1250 actually?
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2007, 07:16:34 PM »
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Whats the min radius recommended on your Z-6?

I mentioned earlier that I have not done serious testing, but I hear 15" is good.  I would hope to have a layout with at least 24" radii some day ::)

Andrew
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