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Re: Good CN and CP lumber boxcars for the late 70s and early 80s
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2021, 02:25:37 PM »
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Right? I thought I was safe, but EVERY photo I see of those cars has roof walks. So who knows.

Plenty of cars had roof walks up through the mid to late 70s.


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Re: Good CN and CP lumber boxcars for the late 70s and early 80s
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2021, 04:07:50 PM »
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Oh, also, what's the story with the CPAA reporting marks again?

CPAA and CPI were cars assigned to international service.

Right? I thought I was safe, but EVERY photo I see of those cars has roof walks. So who knows.

I'll check a couple books when  I get home... being 40ft they may have gotten scrapped before the final deadline.
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Re: Good CN and CP lumber boxcars for the late 70s and early 80s
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2021, 04:19:31 PM »
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Heres one from 1977 with the running board removed.  8)
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/misc-d/dwc585185akg.jpg

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Re: Good CN and CP lumber boxcars for the late 70s and early 80s
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2021, 09:26:52 PM »
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Oh, also, what's the story with the CPAA reporting marks again?

CPAA, CNA cars were basically US cars. (US built/acquired cars, no import duties paid.) Before the CPAA marks were introduced, "International of Maine" markings were used in a similar fashion on some US-built boxcars.

There's a reason why most of the automotive parts 60' and 86' boxcars had "A" marks since they ran in parts pools with US railroads...

CPI, CNIS, DWC, CVC, ACIS, BCIT, etc. were "International service only", supposed to not be used in domestic service in either country under some specific customs rules I'm less clear on.

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Re: Good CN and CP lumber boxcars for the late 70s and early 80s
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2021, 09:35:13 PM »
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Heres one from 1977 with the running board removed.  8)
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/misc-d/dwc585185akg.jpg

Some re# back to CN, without running boards in 1971*, with in 1979, and without in 1978 (x3)....

http://rr-fallenflags.org/cn/cn581226m20.jpg  Edit: scratch the 1971 date captioned on this one. It's def. wrong. 1976 shop date. This series was listed as DWC from '76-78 when they renumbered to CN same #s.
http://rr-fallenflags.org/cn/cn581719akg.jpg
http://rr-fallenflags.org/cn/cn581834akg.jpg
http://rr-fallenflags.org/cn/cn582114akg.jpg
http://rr-fallenflags.org/cn/cn582119akg.jpg

The 58xxxx series is an interesting jumble of cars, some were re# back and forth between CN and DWC in the '70s.

http://nakina.net/cn/cn5.html
http://nakina.net/cdn/dwp.html
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Re: Good CN and CP lumber boxcars for the late 70s and early 80s
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2021, 10:42:34 PM »
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This is pretty cool thread

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