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Re: "TBOX" 60' High Cube Plate F Boxcar - Walthers
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2018, 10:33:23 AM »
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Some of the roadnames announced are foobies though.

CP and CSX car numbers listed and shown are NSCs. BNSF number series are Trinitys.

Marketing photo of the CN/DWC cars uses a Trinity version, but they did have Gundersons in the number range used. Although there's a minor detail difference in that unusually the DWCs don't have the wider post at the bolsters.

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Re: "TBOX" 60' High Cube Plate F Boxcar - Walthers
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2018, 04:23:40 PM »
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I did a little digging on 60' rib-side, double plug door box cars and came up with the following builders/schemes.  TBOX has the largest fleet, by far, but there are several schemes that can be done with the old LBF tooling that would pass muster for most modellers.  As far as I can tell, only TBOX has any significant fleet of cross rib cars, but it is a large fleet.  (All the links are to RailcarPhotos - login required... sorry.)
-gfh

Vertical ribs:
Greenbriar/Gunderson (LBF): TBOX/old, TBOX/new, AOK, AOK/CSX, CIBX/BNSF, COER, CN/DWC, KCS/brown*, KCS/red*, KCS/TBOX, NS*, NS/logo, TBOX/brown*, TR, WC
NSC (LBF): TBOX/old, TBOX/new, CP, CN/DWC*, LW*, NS*, SRY*
Trinity: TBOX/old, BNSF/old, BNSF/new, CN/DWC, MTNR, NKCR

Cross ribs:
Greenbriar: TBOX, TBOX/KCS
Trinity: TBOX
Freight Car America: TBOX, JAIX

*Slightly different prototype than the LBF model.

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Re: "TBOX" 60' High Cube Plate F Boxcar - Walthers
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2018, 06:27:29 PM »
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I didn’t know there were patched out schemes.

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Re: "TBOX" 60' High Cube Plate F Boxcar - Walthers
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2018, 06:41:51 PM »
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I didn’t know there were patched out schemes.

A lot of the CSX " Big Blue " 50' and 60' are patched out to other roads now

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Re: "TBOX" 60' High Cube Plate F Boxcar - Walthers
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2018, 11:12:20 PM »
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I see a lot of the second owners of these here on the Coast.
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Re: "TBOX" 60' High Cube Plate F Boxcar - Walthers
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2018, 10:36:27 AM »
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Who said it has too be IMRC?

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Re: "TBOX" 60' High Cube Plate F Boxcar - Walthers
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2018, 08:00:18 PM »
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Who said it has too be IMRC?

Just that they supposedly have the tooling.   Although, I also recall hearing it was broken.   

To be clear, I agree with you.   If we can have three manufacturers making PS-1s and GG-1s and 53ft containers we can have three manufacturers making 60ft modern boxcars.  They'll sell.

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Re: "TBOX" 60' High Cube Plate F Boxcar - Walthers
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2018, 06:29:21 PM »
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IM has Cotton Belt, Santa Fe ECT would these be foobs? Or were these built in the early 70s too?

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Re: "TBOX" 60' High Cube Plate F Boxcar - Walthers
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2018, 11:27:04 AM »
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IM has Cotton Belt, Santa Fe ECT would these be foobs? Or were these built in the early 70s too?

:?  IM does not make a 60' box car (yet), but I'm guessing you're referring to the old Red Caboose 62' car which they now manufacture on RC's behalf.  Most, if not all, of the schemes they offered are prototypical.


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Re: "TBOX" 60' High Cube Plate F Boxcar - Walthers
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2018, 06:05:11 PM »
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:?  IM does not make a 60' box car (yet), but I'm guessing you're referring to the old Red Caboose 62' car which they now manufacture on RC's behalf.  Most, if not all, of the schemes they offered are prototypical.

Unless it's the 50' cars retooled from Huberts/LBF that haven't been released yet (announced Sep 2016)?
https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=40049.0

But back to the TBOXs, between these cars and the BNSF icicle reefers it's hard to imagine a more needed modern piece of general freight rolling stock in N. Both would seem a good fit for the MTL business model - a dominant road name with options for others (except the BNSF reefer) plus a really good canvas for weathered and graffiti releases. How about it @Shipsure ??? TBOX runner packs are the new Railbox runner packs  :D

A couple of posts from the MFCL on the Walthers HO model - not that MTL would have to do the same...

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Looks to be a Gunderson/Greenbriar 7550.
AOK, BNSF, COER, CRLE (ex COER), DWC, KCS (ex AOK), NRLX (ex BNSF), NS, TBOX, TBOX (ex AOK, NS).
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Darrell Sawyer posted about the new model on the Atlas Rescue Forum:

“The undec model is of a Gunderson-Concarril 7550 cf double plug box car. This version (with eaves) was first built 4=9/03 for TBOX 660000-660499. Gunderson-Concarril built an earlier version without eaves and with 8 side posts on each side of the door, plus a few other differences from the model.

The version with eaves (Walthers version) were built for:
AOK 112000-112149 (150) 11/03=1/04
TBOX 660000-660499 (500) 4=9/03
TBOX 660500-660799 (300) 1=4/04
TBOX 660800-661199 (400) 1=5/05

Now, looking at the cars they've shown on their web site. Most are NOT Gunderson-Concarril cars...

CP 218000-218374 (375) NSC 7630 cf 5=8/01
Differences:
No eaves
Side posts wider at bottom
Third side post from end is not wide
No riveted jack pad
Different side sill

CSXT 173551-173575 (25) NSC 7234 cf
Differences:
No eaves
Side posts wider at bottom
Third side post from end is not wide
No riveted jack pad
Different side sill

DWC 793000-793499 (500) TR 7500 cf 7=12/05
Differences:
6 side posts each side of door (instead of 7)
Third side post from end is not wide
No riveted jack pad
Different side sill

BNSF 761400-761999 (600) TRG 7500 cf 7=10/03
Differences:
Single plug door instead of double plug doors
8 side posts instead of 7
Third side post from end is not wide

So, one paint scheme (AOK) is accurate for this car.”

James Costello
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Re: "TBOX" 60' High Cube Plate F Boxcar - Walthers
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2018, 06:18:23 PM »
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My bad  :facepalm: wrong car for this thread, I was thinking of the 50' Gunderson HY cubes.