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Re: Bachmann 1937 AAR Boxcar.
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2016, 07:31:13 AM »
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Yeah, admittedly I like the MTL 3-dome even though the domes are  a little short and the detail isn't as fine as the single dome tank. But the model looks good when lowered.
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Re: Bachmann 1937 AAR Boxcar.
« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2016, 09:36:00 AM »
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Yes, It matches the 1927 ACF car with AB brakes. I have many of them.


When you say '1927', I assume you mean 'Type 27', where 'Type' referred to the frame and the number was the year it was introduced e.g. the previous frame model was Type 21.

Do you have a picture or drawing that supports this?  I have a drawing for a Type 27, and while very close, it's not a match most notably the handrail doesn't fall on the center line of the tank like the Bachmann model.  Also, the drawing doesn't have a single main gusset where the AB valve is, but rather two smaller supports.  There's other things like lack of corner bracing and how high the tank rides, but those I can see being just the way the model was made.

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Re: Bachmann 1937 AAR Boxcar.
« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2016, 03:16:38 PM »
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Yes, It matches the 1927 ACF car with AB brakes. I have many of them. Most I swapped underframes for the intermountain car ones.

One thing about the N Scale tank cars that bothers me is I think someone has a car out of scale. If you have the ability to compare cars please consider the Micro Trains 10,000 gallon car vs the Bachmann 10,000 gallon car. Someone is out of scale and I think its Micro Trains. If you place the Bachmann car with the intermountain 8000 gallon car it "looks right" . I stopper buying the MT car. I do however like the MT three dome car that looks like it could be a 6000 gallon car. The MT three dome car "looks right" with the intermountain and Bachmann car.

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Do you mean in diameter?  I found a drawing online of the 10,000 gal ACF.  It's supposed to be 92-1/2" inside diameter.
Calipers on he MT car measure 93-3/8".  So its outside diameter is a little less than an inch in diameter bigger than the ACF drawing inside diameter.  That seems pretty good to me. 
But the tank length is about 4 feet too long.

Is the length the big problem everybody sees with these ?

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Re: Bachmann 1937 AAR Boxcar.
« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2016, 07:55:19 PM »
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Do you mean in diameter?  I found a drawing online of the 10,000 gal ACF.  It's supposed to be 92-1/2" inside diameter.
Calipers on he MT car measure 93-3/8".  So its outside diameter is a little less than an inch in diameter bigger than the ACF drawing inside diameter.  That seems pretty good to me. 
But the tank length is about 4 feet too long.

Is the length the big problem everybody sees with these ?

On the MTL car?  I believe the dome is too short in height as well.
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Re: Bachmann 1937 AAR Boxcar.
« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2016, 11:49:34 PM »
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This and their 50' boxcar are already available from other manufacturers right?

Bachmann's X-post box suffers from the same "identity crisis issues" that the Athearn HO "Failbox" has, but I don't know if it has the same screwed-up dimensions as the "Failbox" that would make it impractical to fix them.

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Re: Bachmann 1937 AAR Boxcar.
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2016, 04:22:28 PM »
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the Failbox just has the wrong roof. Replacing it with a diagonal pattern roof gets you a reasonable ACF boxcar, but with the Trainman already out there, why bother? I have one simply because I wanted another Railbox and Atlas was out. I don't consider the wrong roof the end of the world. I have a stack of X brace, Diagnal and PS bowties in my inventory. The incorrect roof on the ER waffle box annoyed me quite a bit more.

What about this 1937 and their 50' ACF smooth side? Are these available elsewhere as well?

I know the one car I would be interested is a major foobie: their grain car. The car itself isn't bad - On par with Atlas Trainman offerings I thing, but none of the paint schemes are correct. Not a single one.
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Re: Bachmann 1937 AAR Boxcar.
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2016, 06:28:15 PM »
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What about this 1937 and their 50' ACF smooth side? Are these available elsewhere as well?

As Bryan noted in the second post, Intermountain makes the 1937 car.

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Re: Bachmann 1937 AAR Boxcar.
« Reply #37 on: March 03, 2016, 01:16:58 AM »
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Although IM's can be hard to find, as they keep cancelling them...
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Re: Bachmann 1937 AAR Boxcar.
« Reply #38 on: March 03, 2016, 02:23:32 AM »
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Although IM's can be hard to find, as they keep cancelling them...

Kits are in stock, but not the same car as what they produce, it's still the same kits from years ago.

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Re: Bachmann 1937 AAR Boxcar.
« Reply #39 on: March 03, 2016, 09:55:58 AM »
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the Failbox just has the wrong roof. Replacing it with a diagonal pattern roof gets you a reasonable ACF boxcar, but with the Trainman already out there, why bother? I have one simply because I wanted another Railbox and Atlas was out. I don't consider the wrong roof the end of the world. I have a stack of X brace, Diagnal and PS bowties in my inventory. The incorrect roof on the ER waffle box annoyed me quite a bit more.

What about this 1937 and their 50' ACF smooth side? Are these available elsewhere as well?

I know the one car I would be interested is a major foobie: their grain car. The car itself isn't bad - On par with Atlas Trainman offerings I thing, but none of the paint schemes are correct. Not a single one.

Atlas made the Plate C/5300 cuft car with the droop sill, I don't know if Bachmann's car (with a correct roof added) would be a duplicate of the Atlas model vs. a Plate B/5077 cuft car.

Nobody else makes the 50' ACF plug door box in N, but I did see Rivarossi announce one in HO where it's possible that an Arnold one may be a possibility in N...fingers crossed...

 Bachmann did offer their NSC "export" 4650 in ATSF paint, but as you point out, the other paint schemes are B(achmann) S(peculation).

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Re: Bachmann 1937 AAR Boxcar.
« Reply #40 on: March 04, 2016, 02:30:50 PM »
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 :?
   but did Santa Fe letter the 4650s the way Bachman does ?
  the only road that seen here on those 4650s was CAGY,believe
  they were leased from NAHX/GERSCO in the 80s at least.
  nice plain gray cars.
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