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pnolan48

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Re: How would you design a 20ft X 12 ft wide train room?
« Reply #45 on: March 30, 2014, 07:34:58 PM »
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Bob,

I'll reply in more length later. For now, just know that I too respect your work and your writings, and think it's great fun to discuss ideas such as this one with you and others on this forum, hoping the OP doesn't get too pissed off if we digress into general principles rather than specifics. I'm told I have a wicked sense of humor that perhaps does not always come across on forums. While my model railroading publications are few, perhaps a dozen, there were more than 3,000 publications and TV and movie credits on my list before I stopped maintaining it, some of them (annual reports) book length, many with a satiric twist or three.

More later--I've got a big N scale ship to finish!

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Re: How would you design a 20ft X 12 ft wide train room?
« Reply #46 on: April 01, 2014, 10:20:06 PM »
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My current layout was originally built in a room 20'x12'. As I had the room built (Free standing Shed) I placed the door in the end as i had a track plan in mind. Since then I have moved house and the Layout has moved into the new house. It now resides in a room 23'x12'.
I went for the E shape. Lower Staging level with a sceniced upper running level. I built the layout with operation in mind. I have 18" to work with on the outside walls. a 3' aisle and a 3' wide peninsula giving 18" on either side. Since the new room has a door in the corner of the 23' wall I had to make a few changes in the rebuild. I only have 4 towns on the single track main. 1 is the main layout yard, 2 smaller towns (8' passing track) and a longer town with 10' passing.  Have a look a the track plan and my blog.

Hope this helps.

Here is a link to an old track diagram.  http://lnrrcaseysub.thejohnnos.id.au/images/Gj-l&n-05-2004.jpg

http://www.lnrrknoxvilledivision.thejohnnos.id.au/

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Re: How would you design a 20ft X 12 ft wide train room?
« Reply #47 on: April 02, 2014, 11:40:06 AM »
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How can I include a coal tipple in a large city scene, New river mining.

You could kitbash it into a chemical plant. You could also repurpose the building as a gravel aggregate facility. Not too many large cities have active mines in the developed portion of town, but it could fit on an outskirt area.

As for how I would use the space, I agree with the narrow shelves idea for around the room. Depending on what type of railroad you want (urban, suburban, rural, mountain or plains) can dictate what else you do. You could obviously run a skinny peninsula down the middle long ways and put a blob for a return loop. If the wall shelves are 1 foot wide here, and the blob 4 feet wide, you get 2 aisles about 3 feet wide as long as you don't clutter fascia there with controls or projections.

I would also consider a double deck approach around the room with no central peninsula. Leaving a 10 foot, or even 8 foot wide, central area would allow spacious room for operators to move around the room as they operate trains. You will likely get more mainline length from the double deck than you lose from not having the peninsula.

If you plan to focus on an urban or industrial line, you could also skip the skinny peninsula, but have short peninsulas or blobs branch off the shelves in places for industries. They could create a more zigzag style aisle if you make sure they don't have their ends meeting in the middle of the room.

Your shelves along the walls could also vary in width, widening as they approach the middle of the room, and shrinking back to a 12 inch depth near the corners, if you wanted to provide flexibility so the fascia and backdrop are not parallel edges. Doing so would also allow straight track that doesn't parallel the front edge of the layout, which is a very effective design technique that improves foreground scenery, as Bob advocates.

You have plenty of options, so make the most of them.
Peter Pfotenhauer

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Re: How would you design a 20ft X 12 ft wide train room?
« Reply #48 on: April 03, 2014, 01:26:29 AM »
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OK, flagler, you've have 5 or 6 responses that recommend doing some sort of "Givens and Druthers" assessment of what KIND of layout you want before you decide what DESIGN of layout you want. Other than a large mine and UP/SP/ATSF territory (Texas? or California?), we're still in the dark as to what kind of railroading scenes and action are your favorites. Building a big layout and then trying to figure out what you can do with it afterward is a recipe for disappointment.
Sorry if we seem to be annoyingly repetitive about this, but it is something you'll appreciate later.

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Re: How would you design a 20ft X 12 ft wide train room?
« Reply #49 on: April 03, 2014, 10:12:46 AM »
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If I design/model a geographic area.It will be California. level 1- Port, level 2-central valley,level3- Sierra Nevada mnts

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Re: How would you design a 20ft X 12 ft wide train room?
« Reply #50 on: June 06, 2014, 10:18:47 AM »
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My layout space has grown to 21' x  21'.  I am glad to have the extra space :D