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Re: TLT, you gotta be kidding...
« Reply #30 on: September 29, 2009, 06:17:25 PM »
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Atlas moved their production of freight cars to the US for a while years back. Then moved it overseas again. There is more than molding. I believe painting is pretty expensive, if you have to pay someone to do it. This is why MT charges more for more complex schemes.

Frank

There also are EPA issues in New Jersey regarding the painting.  I know that was a factor initially in moving the freight car finishing overseas.

The track manufacturing also was moved overseas, including the Code 80 - the track-making machines ran practically 24/7 and were very impressive in operation.  Since the track-making machines were hand-built by Atlas and amortized decades ago, the only assumption is that it's far cheaper to have even the original track manufactured overseas than in Hillside.

Regarding the tooling - it is far far less expensive to do it overseas than here.  ESM has done both, and it's not even close.  Regarding the painting/printing, it's less expensive overseas even with the import costs on short runs.  Again, ESM has done both - the costs are closer admittedly, but it's still less expensive overseas and the overall quality is better.
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Re: TLT, you gotta be kidding...
« Reply #31 on: September 29, 2009, 10:59:26 PM »
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For those commenting about the price, all of the Chinese factories are now passing on the cost of mandatory wage increases, which were brought in by the Chinese government as a requirement of honour trade agreements.  The door track will be fixed; hopefully the ride height can be fixed with a file.

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I guess this is just the beginning of massive price increases for model trains... wow, 20% all at once!

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Re: TLT, you gotta be kidding...
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2009, 06:23:06 PM »
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I guess this is just the beginning of massive price increases for model trains... wow, 20% all at once!

It's a good thing I have more than enough  ;D

I just spent $200 on decoders for stuff I had sitting in the box for the last 2 years .,,,

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Re: TLT, you gotta be kidding...
« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2009, 10:09:51 PM »
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Yowch!  I'm not sure I need these cars that badly after all.  Maybe I'll hold out for Fox Valley to announce some X58s...   :o

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Re: TLT, you gotta be kidding...
« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2009, 08:15:58 AM »
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man,How does anything that bad make it through R&D and QC today?I can see bachmann,Model power,Tyco,Life like doing something like that in the 80s on a $3 car....but not a nearly $30 car in 2008/9!