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General Discussion => Product Discussion => Topic started by: VonRyan on April 27, 2015, 02:25:54 PM

Title: C&A PRR FM Class Flatcar
Post by: VonRyan on April 27, 2015, 02:25:54 PM
Camden & Amboy Models is proud to officially announce that it will be offering a limited-run kit of the Pennsylvania Railroad FM-class flatcar.

Already in the early stages of development, the kit will be comprised of a one-piece cast-resin body (sans deck and brake detail), laser-cut wood deck, separate brake wheels (2) to allow for the modeller to build it per its original or updated configuration, and cast-resin brake cylinder. Trucks/couplers not included.

Bolster holes will be sized to accept Micro-Trains kingpins, and locator dimples will be provided for body-mounting the recommended Micro-Trains 905 (Z/Nn3) couplers.

Scaled from an original PRR blueprint tracing and original photographs, every effort is being made to insure that the resulting kit will be as true to the prototype as possible.


A brief history of the FM class:
The PRR's FM Class flatcars were built in the PRR's Altoona Shops between 1902 and 1913.
The FM Class were the workhorses of the PRR's flatcar fleet until the 1930's with the introduction of the F30 Class.
These cars lasted in great numbers through the 1950's, the number of cars in revenue service having dropped to 364.
By 1968, 3 FM class flatcars still remained in service.
As the FM class flatcars aged, the majority of were transferred to MOW service.


(https://scontent-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/t31.0-8/11123630_972754956081630_4124965004343971185_o.png)





Cody W Fisher
President of Camden & Amboy Models
Title: Re: C&A PRR FM Class Flatcar
Post by: chicken45 on April 27, 2015, 04:09:10 PM
You may want to rethink drawing a line in the sand for Z scale couplers. If anything, do it for N, but accommodate for Z. I would test both for sure.
Title: Re: C&A PRR FM Class Flatcar
Post by: GN Fan on April 27, 2015, 04:12:59 PM
Do you have a web site?  I wanted to browse items left over from the previous owner.

Tom
Title: Re: C&A PRR FM Class Flatcar
Post by: jmlaboda - RIP on April 27, 2015, 04:13:58 PM
Finally a 40' flat car is going to be made!!!  This is one of those cars that has been largely overlooked because so many roads ended up buying many more 50' flat cars... definitely something to be glad about!!!
Title: Re: C&A PRR FM Class Flatcar
Post by: Chris333 on April 27, 2015, 04:36:23 PM
Decals?
Title: Re: C&A PRR FM Class Flatcar
Post by: eric220 on April 27, 2015, 05:02:41 PM
You may want to rethink drawing a line in the sand for Z scale couplers. If anything, do it for N, but accommodate for Z. I would test both for sure.

This

Decals?

Also this.
Title: Re: C&A PRR FM Class Flatcar
Post by: VonRyan on April 27, 2015, 07:21:12 PM
You may want to rethink drawing a line in the sand for Z scale couplers. If anything, do it for N, but accommodate for Z. I would test both for sure.

The plan is to either find a common point for both sizes of couplers to be body-mounted, or for separate dimples for each type.


Do you have a web site?  I wanted to browse items left over from the previous owner.

Tom

We don't have a website, but we do have a facebook page, and you do not need an account to be able to view it.
https://www.facebook.com/CamdenAmboyModels (https://www.facebook.com/CamdenAmboyModels)
We are in the process of photographing all the remaining items from the original product line, and will have everything posted onto the facebook page within the next couple of days.
The majority of what is left are 30's style vehicles, a few types of trailers, a few different detail parts, 3 wood roofs to turn MT hoppers into sand hoppers, some AC roofs for Rivarossi coaches, and a massive bag of animals that I haven't even begun to look through.


Decals?

We're hoping to include decals for at least revenue service, but if possible we'll also include decals for MOW service.
I didn't mention decals only because that is going to take much more coordination with outside sources so it will take some time to confirm.
Title: Re: C&A PRR FM Class Flatcar
Post by: wazzou on April 27, 2015, 07:49:09 PM
Finally a 40' flat car is going to be made!!!  This is one of those cars that has been largely overlooked because so many roads ended up buying many more 50' flat cars... definitely something to be glad about!!!


Red Caboose?
Title: Re: C&A PRR FM Class Flatcar
Post by: Missaberoad on April 27, 2015, 07:57:12 PM

Red Caboose?
Fine n scale?  :)
Title: Re: C&A PRR FM Class Flatcar
Post by: Mark5 on April 27, 2015, 08:11:44 PM
Fine n scale?  :)

Atlas?  :P
(looooong out of production)
Title: Re: C&A PRR FM Class Flatcar
Post by: chicken45 on April 28, 2015, 12:13:25 AM
So, I know Jeff Faulkner was offering decals in both revenue and MOW when he was offering his FM kits.
MVS did MOW decals. He has like 250 sets of them.

He also did F22/23 decals due to PRRPro demand. He even did them in N based solely off the availability of a Shapeways model. Talk to John Frantz. I'll likely see him this weekend and mention it if I remember.
Title: Re: C&A PRR FM Class Flatcar
Post by: Chris333 on April 28, 2015, 12:36:27 AM
Oh a F22 would be nice.

How do I get these decals?
Title: Re: C&A PRR FM Class Flatcar
Post by: nkalanaga on April 28, 2015, 01:32:55 AM
Mark5:  And didn't the Atlas 40 ft car end up being imported by other companies as well?  I chopped a couple in half (lengthwise) and made narrow gauge cars from them over 30 years ago.  Those were one of the earliest N scale flatcars.
Title: Re: C&A PRR FM Class Flatcar
Post by: peteski on April 28, 2015, 02:40:41 AM
Mark5:  And didn't the Atlas 40 ft car end up being imported by other companies as well?  I chopped a couple in half (lengthwise) and made narrow gauge cars from them over 30 years ago.  Those were one of the earliest N scale flatcars.

Wasn't that car made by Roco?  I think I have one of those custom-painted for B&M and I don't think Atlas ever made one in that scheme.  And I'm not talking about the recent Red Caboose 42' B&M flat cars.
Title: Re: C&A PRR FM Class Flatcar
Post by: central.vermont on April 28, 2015, 04:31:23 AM
Pete,

Well according too George Irwin Atlas did one in B&M. Did yours look like this one?
http://www.irwinsjournal.com/a1g/ (http://www.irwinsjournal.com/a1g/)
Jon
Title: Re: C&A PRR FM Class Flatcar
Post by: peteski on April 28, 2015, 05:23:02 AM
Pete,

Well according too George Irwin Atlas did one in B&M. Did yours look like this one?
http://www.irwinsjournal.com/a1g/ (http://www.irwinsjournal.com/a1g/)
Jon


That might be it John, but to confirm I would have to find that car - it is somewhere in my stash of cars.   So, these were made by Rivarossi. Interesting.
Title: Re: C&A PRR FM Class Flatcar
Post by: Chris333 on April 28, 2015, 05:27:08 AM
LOL I have an Atlas 40' B&M flatcar. Started as a bulkhead, the ends popped right off.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TclnJyC2BIY/RnMCPrvKpsI/AAAAAAAAL3I/y_xT__Sit1A/s800/IMG_4289.jpg)
Title: Re: C&A PRR FM Class Flatcar
Post by: towl1996 on April 28, 2015, 04:39:01 PM
He also did F22/23 decals due to PRRPro demand. He even did them in N based solely off the availability of a Shapeways model.

I'd like to get some of those decals, are we talking John or Jeff? And for how long were those F22s on Shapeways, like a month? I can't find them now.
Title: Re: C&A PRR FM Class Flatcar
Post by: CodyO on April 28, 2015, 05:42:10 PM
Hey Chris333 is the tender the only modification done to the Erie 2-8-0?
Title: Re: C&A PRR FM Class Flatcar
Post by: chicken45 on April 28, 2015, 05:51:58 PM
I'd like to get some of those decals, are we talking John or Jeff? And for how long were those F22s on Shapeways, like a month? I can't find them now.

Send me a PM reminder and I'll email Keith or see him his weekend if he goes.

I'd talk to John for a run.
Title: Re: C&A PRR FM Class Flatcar
Post by: towl1996 on May 05, 2015, 12:02:02 PM
Send me a PM reminder and I'll email Keith or see him his weekend if he goes.

I'd talk to John for a run.

Is Keith the guy who made the F22? If so I would be interested in a couple, so if you could reach out to him.
Thanks
Title: Re: C&A PRR FM Class Flatcar
Post by: chicken45 on May 05, 2015, 03:02:00 PM
Is Keith the guy who made the F22? If so I would be interested in a couple, so if you could reach out to him.
Thanks

He is, and I did. I met him at the PRRT&HS convention this past weekend. We talked about how he should leave off the side rivets and how Shapeways gave him issues with print orientation.
He will likely put them back up but I'm going to make some recommendations on in writing to him.