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Teditor

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Atlas N Scale Shay
« on: August 26, 2026, 08:03:19 AM »
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Our club has just inherited an N Scale Atlas Shay, it keeps throwing the rear drive shaft, is the only successful way to fix it remove it by cutting it short, will you really notice it on something so small.
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Re: Atlas N Scale Shay
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2026, 08:16:50 AM »
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I've managed to put mine back together several times.

Very difficult but possible.  I'm assuming that the universal assembly directly off of the crankshaft rear is what's popping off.   Let's confirm that part first.

Also confirm that the rear truck wheel gear (singular, not plural) is properly engaging the face of the wheel and not sticking, hanging, or otherwise messing up; i.e. it runs with the driveshaft removed and flopping the rear universal around.   If that tolerance is 'off' or the gear is worn out, another issue entirely.

The design flaw on these is that while actually driven through the truck gears and the worm, you're also transmitting torque through that driveshaft from truck to truck.   If you have tension in either direction of travel through the shaft, it will spring something.  That's what makes taking the trucks off next to a fatal error; mis-aligned with each other, they will spring the moving driveshaft apart repeatedly.

I always hold my breath running mine, and these guys that run them at 50mph on a layout have never actually seen a Shay.

It's an incredibly delicate mechanism, basically, a miracle when it works right and you can creep it around as it should be run.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2026, 08:19:41 AM by randgust »

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Re: Atlas N Scale Shay
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2026, 06:12:54 PM »
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a dab of canopy glue fixes everything :D
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Re: Atlas N Scale Shay
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2026, 04:42:50 PM »
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Can you share a picture of what is disconnecting?  Are the sliding square sleeves coming apart on left hand turns when full extended?  I believe you can very carefully slide the parts left and right and then re-dab with the smallest bit of canopy glue. 

I have re-assembled one of the universal joints with a 3x magnifier and a sewing needle.

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Re: Atlas N Scale Shay
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2026, 04:46:10 PM »
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Also, Randgust is correct about mistimed trucks causing lots of problems.  I have addressed this when reassembling an Atlas shay by loosening one of the motor mounts (assuming it is one of the 2nd gen or later models) so that one worm gear is disengaged.  Then you can roll that truck backwards and forwards to find the limits of free play.  Then I put it back so the gearing is centered and tighten down the motor mount.  This way the trucks are not operating at one extreme end of gear lash.