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Jim G

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Re: Kato Shinkansen
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2026, 12:23:37 PM »
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@Jim G  - check out RailCargo46 here in the GTA.  Marc Bruno is my go-to guy for ESU decoders.  I’ve purchased at least a half dozen 58731’s from him over the years, and plenty of other items.  Side bonus … he has never added HST to his advertised prices; not sure why!

https://railcargo46.com/product/esu-58923-loksound-5-micro-dcc-direct-kato-japan-blank-decoder/

That's a great tip. Thanks! I just installed the 58731 in my Shinkansen. I HOPE I did it correctly. I followed the Kato video instructions, but of course their video was done by someone who knows exactly how it is supposed to "feel" when it seats, and exactly where it is fully seated. Apparently, if you are off even a little, one or more of the 4 electrical contact points can be bent enough to not make consistent contact or no contatc at all despite how fine it may look.

These decoders are a pain in the butt to hanlde and install, especially if you are aged enough to have somehwat limited close rnage eyesight! I can't test mine yet because my DCC components are ordered but not yet shipped to me. I have an djustable DC power supply that I could apply at 12 volts but that would give skewed and therefor not really useful results.

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Jim G

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Re: Kato Shinkansen
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2026, 02:36:16 PM »
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Wow! I just read the technical writeup on the ESU58731 decoder and it includes the statement "An AUTOMATIC ABC commuter train allows automatic commuting between two stations.

Can this decoder actually fully automatically keep a Kato double-ended commuter passenger model train model running continuously while human operators run freight trains on the layout?

If, in theory at least, a layout operator could "schedule" multiple passenger trains to run a fixed schedule that he works his manually operated freight movements around, giving those trains superior rights.

This must require some form of software coding and track sensors, right?

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Re: Kato Shinkansen
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2026, 11:11:13 PM »
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If you are looking to buy a Shinkansen, consider the interesting Dr. Yellow night-run test maintenance train:

Made by both Kato and Tomix.  This Tomix one might be a steal at $62. if shipping and tariff costs are reasonable:

https://www.plazajapan.com/4543736984801/?setCurrencyId=1&msclkid=5d9e523bdc921d87c39238ad9c7b8d7a

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Re: Kato Shinkansen
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2026, 05:28:30 PM »
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I have to add different data points to what Jim is experiencing in installing EM13 (or the like) decoders into Kato passenger trains, Shinkansen or no Shinkansen.  First of all, almost all Kato passenger trains released over the pass couple of years use this type of decoders and their installation by opening a hatch on the bottom of the motor car.  Maybe they have changed the design over the years but I have not seen any different designs in the wild.  I realize there's always an exception to the rule.

Yes, you have to remove one truck for full access but that can be done in less than 5 seconds with the rounded corner of a credit card or hotel room key.  Installing it back is just a matter of lining everything up and snapping it back in with a gentle push.  The time it takes me to install the trifecta of decoders is less than the time it takes me to program them for operations!

I have installed dozens of EM13 (although I have never done the ESU sound equipped equivalent but I would assume it's the same) on my own trains as well as for others with have had zero EM13 failures.  The only "mistake" you can really do is flip the decoder incorrectly when installing.  Other than that, you just basically slide it in until it "bottoms" out.  If you take a look at the contact traces on the decoder on both sides, you'll see they are HUGE.  So I don't understand how you can misconnect the four large contacts, two on the top and two on the bottom.

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Re: Kato Shinkansen
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2026, 05:32:48 PM »
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If you are looking to buy a Shinkansen, consider the interesting Dr. Yellow night-run test maintenance train:

Made by both Kato and Tomix.  This Tomix one might be a steal at $62. if shipping and tariff costs are reasonable:

https://www.plazajapan.com/4543736984801/?setCurrencyId=1&msclkid=5d9e523bdc921d87c39238ad9c7b8d7a

Caution.  Tomix is not DCC friendly.  You need to slice and dice to get three separate decoders installed.  Motor and the two end cars for directional light.

Been there, done that.  I would only do it if Kato doesn't make a version and I am head over heels in love with the set.   :D

As for shipping and tariffs from Japan, It can easily run near $50 for both if you want DHL, UPS or FedEx Global shipping.  Once get to that point of initial "fixed" costs, you start loading up the order to maximize the shipping and tariffs.  Then it becomes dangerous.   :D