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Re: BC Rail (ex-CPR) 2-8-0 3716 build
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2025, 06:07:25 PM »
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Now the parts are all washed and with that I believe I’m ready for paint!


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Re: BC Rail (ex-CPR) 2-8-0 3716 build
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2025, 07:08:36 PM »
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You are getting close to the finish line!

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Re: BC Rail (ex-CPR) 2-8-0 3716 build
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2025, 11:10:25 PM »
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You are getting close to the finish line!

Tim

It feels that way!  Certainly closer than when I showed you and Greg my start on this loco 15 years or so in Greg’s basement!  Hahah.

Masking and painting all of the black piping on the stainless finish will be very challenging. I’m looking forward to that.

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Re: BC Rail (ex-CPR) 2-8-0 3716 build
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2025, 12:10:50 AM »
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@craigolio1,

This build is fantastic!

Keep in mind you don’t need the whole box for an NP install. You can entirely omit the top… all you need to do is to file down the post of the box bottom so it’s effectively level with the coupler top. No top also means no sides.

You can also trim the forward section off the bottom off too… you only need the post and the splitter.

Accordingly you should be able work the NP coupler very nicely into the pilot... You should be able replicate what I did on the stock consolidation for your build I'm thinking.

I did need to trim around the leading wheel for clearance. I'll try and post a "stock" and modified version when I get a chance. The height is spot on when installed without a box top.... I used a medium shank and the "box" is glued with tire glue. It's held reliably, although I did add a lot more glue then in this picture....

A few more reference pictures of the process......
 
Stock "box" section filed out a tad... Didn't take much though.



Coupler worked into the slot... It was done shank at a time, not as an assembly! I mounted the spring in place here...


Box bottom then added.... Note its trimmed at the front.


Finished Result...


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Re: BC Rail (ex-CPR) 2-8-0 3716 build
« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2025, 12:40:51 AM »
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@turbowhiz

That’s outstanding!!!  It never occurred to me that I needed so little of the box. I’m going to exactly that. The lid is shortened already. I just need to file the tube a bit.

Thanks so much for posting this with so much detail.

Craig.

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Re: BC Rail (ex-CPR) 2-8-0 3716 build
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2025, 09:49:34 PM »
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Tonight I masked and shot the black. Soooo many tiny pieces of tape.

I wanted to paint the smoke box a slightly greyer colour. You can see the little bit of contrast here.





Then I went on to mask the yeast of it so I could paint just the running boards and piping flat black.




The result looks awesome. But unfortunately I don’t see the contrast between the smoke box and the rest of the black that I wanted.







I really like how the difference in the polished shiny bands can be seen from the rest of the boiler.


The next step is to shoot the Tuscan red on the cab and tender sides.

Craig

« Last Edit: September 07, 2025, 07:13:44 AM by craigolio1 »

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Re: BC Rail (ex-CPR) 2-8-0 3716 build
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2025, 09:32:42 AM »
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Congrats on succeeding with this crazy masking/painting process. Looks great!
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Re: BC Rail (ex-CPR) 2-8-0 3716 build
« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2025, 06:28:39 PM »
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Congrats on succeeding with this crazy masking/painting process. Looks great!

Thanks Pete. I’m really enjoying this build as I’ve wanted a model of this loco since I was a kid. And I’m trying some new things.

Craig.

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« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2025, 06:51:55 PM »
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I think that you’re kicking @$$.
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Re: BC Rail (ex-CPR) 2-8-0 3716 build
« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2025, 09:35:05 AM »
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Beautiful work! I love these kinds of projects!

I'm stealing the header idea to connect the wires from the tender. Every time I dive into one of these jobs, that's the point where I get frustrated and do sloppy work. I've got two similar projects on the bench that have stalled at exactly that task! You may have motivated me to get moving again!

Also gotta get my hands on some N possible couplers!

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Re: BC Rail (ex-CPR) 2-8-0 3716 build
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2025, 09:44:11 AM »
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Beautiful work! I love these kinds of projects!

I'm stealing the header idea to connect the wires from the tender.

The socket part of the individual pins can be trimmed for even more compact (shorter) connection.  I use both the 0.05" and 2mm spacing male and female headers in my installs.  These are made by Mill-Max and available from Digikey.
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Re: BC Rail (ex-CPR) 2-8-0 3716 build
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2025, 01:51:23 PM »
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Beautiful work! I love these kinds of projects!

I'm stealing the header idea to connect the wires from the tender. Every time I dive into one of these jobs, that's the point where I get frustrated and do sloppy work. I've got two similar projects on the bench that have stalled at exactly that task! You may have motivated me to get moving again!

Also gotta get my hands on some N possible couplers!

Thanks!  I hope this works. None of this has been proven with opps. Just dragging through a Unitrack S curve. We’ll see.

Craig

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Re: BC Rail (ex-CPR) 2-8-0 3716 build
« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2025, 09:59:00 PM »
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Today I did a few touch ups. I noticed that the ribs on the boiler had the stainless finish rubbed off so I aimed to fix it.

I masked the ribs and a large area around creating a bit of a sterile field.



Shot the chrome



And there we are.



Getting closer!

« Last Edit: September 09, 2025, 04:13:45 PM by craigolio1 »

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Re: BC Rail (ex-CPR) 2-8-0 3716 build
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2025, 01:23:26 PM »
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The next step in painting is to do the Tuscan red panels.  Black Cat Decals, who make the decal set I'm using, makes a companion set of Tuscan panels...



However, this loco was scaled down from HO scale and so the fine details are REALLY fine, and I'm concerned that they will disappear under the paint and decals, so I'm trying to all of the colour decoration with very thin coats of paint.

For the tender, I'm very lucky in that the designer actually counted the rivets when he drew this model, so I was able to do the same.

I couldn't find a decent picture of the tender in my modelling time period, but I did find a very good one of it later in her career, and figured it looked the same.

 

I cut small strips of tale and located them at where I thought the outside edges of the panel would be...



I then measured the length and width.  I placed a long piece of Tamiya tape on a piece of glass, and cut one edge with my straight edge to be sure I was starting with perfect straight edge.  After this I measure the width and cut the other side off.  Now I had a long piece of tape the height of my panel which would allow me to make multiple faster, and yield enough to make some mistakes along the way while cutting them.



I needed to cut repeatable, rounded corners on all of these panels.  To do this I found an etched fret with rounded corners and compared ot to  my decal set.  It turns out my BLMA #80 lift rings were perfect.

I aligned the fret with the first corner and using a new blade, gently pulled it around the corner, and finished half way through the strip.  Then I removed the waste at that corner revealing my cut corner....



I flipped the template over and aligned it with the edge I just cut and finished the next corner...



Next I used my length measurement to make a small cut in the centre at the other end of the panel.  i pushed that out a bit with the knife to reveal the cut edge that I could then use to align the fret...



I repeated the same process at the other end and after a couple of mistakes, ended up with two useable panels...



The rejected panel in the middle would be used to make the smaller cab panels.



For this panel I made the size by eye using the proportions of the cab and decal as a guide. Looking only at the height of the panal at this, I put two pieces of tape on the side of the cab and repositioned them until I felt it looked right.  I used some cab numbers cut from the decal set to assist.



For the width of the panel I used the same procedure.



At this point I had two pieces of tape to use as templates for the height and width of the cab panel.  I put the height tape at each end of my mask, made a mark with my knife, and finished the cut with the straight edge.  I thin used the fret in the same way as before and cut the four corners.







Next up, Tuscan paint!




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Re: BC Rail (ex-CPR) 2-8-0 3716 build
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2025, 11:07:28 AM »
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