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Re: Strasburg 89 from a Bachmann 2-6-0
« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2025, 08:35:26 AM »
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The shell is what I was referring to- it can be printed.

I may have installed the truck backwards on the frame but it is a retrofit kit on the Athern/MDC/Roundhouse 2-6-0.
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Re: Strasburg 89 from a Bachmann 2-6-0
« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2025, 04:32:15 PM »
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The shell is what I was referring to- it can be printed.

I may have installed the truck backwards on the frame but it is a retrofit kit on the Athern/MDC/Roundhouse 2-6-0.

Did you create and print the shell that is seen in your photograph?

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Re: Strasburg 89 from a Bachmann 2-6-0
« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2025, 05:08:54 PM »
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Well I've gotten to work tonight. Valve gear has been modified. Lettering removal has begun.

Trying to decide if I should change the drip rails on the cab roof to get the paint separation closer.

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Nice , the more it is shown the Strasburg is a desired road to model , the more manufactures will think about offering models and decals . Me , I want #90 .


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Re: Strasburg 89 from a Bachmann 2-6-0
« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2025, 09:37:01 PM »
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Nice , the more it is shown the Strasburg is a desired road to model , the more manufactures will think about offering models and decals . Me , I want #90 .

#90 was my first love as a kid. So I feel ya.

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Re: Strasburg 89 from a Bachmann 2-6-0
« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2025, 09:39:26 PM »
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So Bachmann is gonna Bachmann, right?

I was adding a bushing to properly hold the rods in alignment after I removed the unneeded valve gear and...

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Cha ba duo strikes again!

I have some replacements on the way, but what a pain.

I again appreciate why they replaced these things with diesels. Lol

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Re: Strasburg 89 from a Bachmann 2-6-0
« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2025, 10:18:20 PM »
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Ah... Chinesium rears its ugly head again.

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Re: Strasburg 89 from a Bachmann 2-6-0
« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2025, 11:44:41 AM »
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Ok, pro-tip on this guy.

If anyone is going to remove parts of the valve gear, the thickness of the rods on main pin is critical to keeping the rods from flexing or binding because the rods aren't connected to the #1 driver.

After simply removing them I had too much flex and had to clip just the end of them off and reinstall it. Of course, in doing so, one of them decided to head off into orbit so I made up a washer using some tubing that I bored out.

If you're following along at home or thinking about doing this: save yourself a LOT of hassle and just gently clip the rod off next to the screw.

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Re: Strasburg 89 from a Bachmann 2-6-0
« Reply #37 on: April 29, 2025, 08:12:24 PM »
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Dammm look what you guys made me do! Heck, its even starts in the right road name!

Oh so many plans.... Quite possibly some nice 3D parts for those who might want to follow me down this path, in service CN e-10-a. I'm thinking new cylinders here even... Positively a whole new pilot. And all the CN jewelry of course.




This distraction isn't going to be good for business..... I'll try and keep it shelved for now, but I'll probably not be able to resist!!





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Re: Strasburg 89 from a Bachmann 2-6-0
« Reply #38 on: April 29, 2025, 08:15:45 PM »
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Where do you find those? They have been sold out for years.

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Re: Strasburg 89 from a Bachmann 2-6-0
« Reply #39 on: April 29, 2025, 11:13:15 PM »
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Say what you will about these but I find some parts of the valve gear (specifically the eccentric rod, gear connecting rod, union link, and the combination lever) way too crude.  Even if other custom parts are added (and true-scale couplers  :) ), those parts will always make it look like a toy.

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Re: Strasburg 89 from a Bachmann 2-6-0
« Reply #40 on: April 30, 2025, 12:54:12 AM »
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Say what you will about these but I find some parts of the valve gear (specifically the eccentric rod, gear connecting rod, union link, and the combination lever) way too crude.  Even if other custom parts are added (and true-scale couplers  :) ), those parts will always make it look like a toy.


They're not fabulously stellar models, but they're a very good starting point for the prototype in question. The have the right general proportions to capture the look. They also run and pull pretty well too, and don't have solid drivers, a not uncommon sin of N scale steam that's truly the worst offender in the toylike appearance department for me.

The great thing about this kitbash is that all the Bachmann Walschaerts valve gear goes away since the prototype has inside frame Stephenson valve gear. So you only end up with the original main and side rods, eliminating all of the worst parts of the admittedly less then staller factory valve gear you find most objectionable. And I'm thinking to replace the cylinders and crosshead to better match the prototype, and maybe try and sort the main rod too. Although the driver spacing is also off, so there might be a law of diminishing returns here for sure. Its not going to be a perfect model.

A typical N scale coupler loud and proud on a steam locomotive pilot is already doing most of the heavy lifting to contribute to a toylike appearance regardless! :trollface:

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Re: Strasburg 89 from a Bachmann 2-6-0
« Reply #41 on: April 30, 2025, 07:37:09 AM »
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The great thing about this kitbash is that all the Bachmann Walschaerts valve gear goes away since the prototype has inside frame Stephenson valve gear. So you only end up with the original main and side rods, eliminating all of the worst parts of the admittedly less then staller factory valve gear you find most objectionable.

This, the valve gear surgery dramatically improves the look of this engine, at least for this particular prototype.

And I'm thinking to replace the cylinders and crosshead to better match the prototype, and maybe try and sort the main rod too.

Will be following along with great interest! I have a sneaking suspicion that whatever mods you come up with, 674 will need them as well.
Because why not...

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Re: Strasburg 89 from a Bachmann 2-6-0
« Reply #42 on: April 30, 2025, 07:48:59 AM »
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A typical N scale coupler loud and proud on a steam locomotive pilot is already doing most of the heavy lifting to contribute to a toylike appearance regardless! :trollface:

AMEN!!  This is the primary reason why I’m so excited about the N-Possible couplers, @turbowhiz …. please let me know how easily this model is converted.

(I have one of these.  Appearances aside, it runs like a Swiss watch!)

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Re: Strasburg 89 from a Bachmann 2-6-0
« Reply #43 on: April 30, 2025, 09:59:49 AM »
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Say what you will about these but I find some parts of the valve gear (specifically the eccentric rod, gear connecting rod, union link, and the combination lever) way too crude.  Even if other custom parts are added (and true-scale couplers  :) ), those parts will always make it look like a toy.



Very true. The good news is that for the prototype, most of the worst offenders there get removed.

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Re: Strasburg 89 from a Bachmann 2-6-0
« Reply #44 on: April 30, 2025, 10:05:03 AM »
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The great thing about this kitbash is that all the Bachmann Walschaerts valve gear goes away since the prototype has inside frame Stephenson valve gear. So you only end up with the original main and side rods, eliminating all of the worst parts of the admittedly less then staller factory valve gear you find most objectionable. And I'm thinking to replace the cylinders and crosshead to better match the prototype, and maybe try and sort the main rod too. Although the driver spacing is also off, so there might be a law of diminishing returns here for sure. Its not going to be a perfect model.

Can you hook a brother up with those parts if you do em? I wasn't planning on it, but the crosshead is decidedly bumming me out every time I look at it, lol.


A typical N scale coupler loud and proud on a steam locomotive pilot is already doing most of the heavy lifting to contribute to a toylike appearance regardless! :trollface:

Hell yes! I think I'll hold off on my 905 conversion then...

The world needs a better N scale single phase air pump than the ancient Detail Associates one. I'm planning on using them myself, but I won't complain if there's a better option.

Which reminds me, does anyone know of a better option? @Chris333 , I feel like this is the type of thing you might've already drawn up for something.