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On this day...
« on: April 01, 2025, 02:32:47 AM »
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On this day, a few decades ago, on April 1st Nineteen-something, Reading Company started running freight trains on their newly electrified lines, with brand new General Electric E2b locomotives.





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Re: On this day...
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2025, 09:07:59 PM »
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Very cool! Uses an FA chassis? I’m glad we got a few more traction modelers in here

Now to put the bug in your ear…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pennsylvania_Railroad_class_E2c&wprov=rarw1
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Re: On this day...
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2025, 02:03:01 AM »
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Back in the early 70s, I actually made an electric loco out of an Arnold FA, just to prove to the local hobby shop owner that N scale could be run from overhead wire.

The pickup system was very simple on those, so insulating one side from the rails, and running a wire to the roof, was no problem.  I didn't bother with a pantograph, just a "bow" collector, bent wire, a rubber band, and a block of balsa.  The over head was just as simple, a board, piece of flextrack, two long nails (one at each end - doubled as stops for the loco), and a length of wire stretched between the nails.

Took it to the shop, hooked it up to his test power pack, and it worked fine.  He was a dedicated O scaler, and didn't think N would ever amount to much.  He sold plenty of it, but never studied it.  European modelers had been using live overhead since the mid 60s.

Put decent pans on one, and it wouldn't look bad as an electric.  I've considered doing it to one of mine.
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Re: On this day...
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2025, 10:56:13 AM »
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A model loco designed to pick up power overhead is not a big deal - it is the N scale catenary that is a pain to deal with or to model realistically without it being too fragile. As you mentioned, even early N scale models of European electric locos had a selector to fully operate from track or use the overhead wire.

I'm not even sure why the hobby shop owner didn't think it would work. Does it matter if one side of the power feed comes from a metal contacting rail or a springy pantograph touching overhead wire?  As long as there is positive contact, the model will run. Maybe he didn't think that a single point of contact with the wire (rather than multiple wheels contacting rails) would result in poor running?
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Re: On this day...
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2025, 02:46:42 AM »
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He didn't think that N scale would ever amount to anything, so wasn't worth "playing with", even though he sold plenty of it.  We moved in 1978, and by 1985 the shop was out of business.  I wonder why?

He also though N scale narrow gauge wouldn't work.  Since Z scale was well established by the mid-70s, of course it would.  The problem was American trucks and couplers, not the scale itself.

And, yes, the big problem in most "small" scales is the overhead.  True, scale, wires are simply too fragile.

O scale modeler Robert Hegge built his overhead with parallel contact and messenger wires, and it looked quite good.  No true catenary sag, but no irregular curves either.  Given what can be done with laser welding today, I've wondered if it would be possible to do the same in N scale.  Use #34 phosphor bronze wire, still oversize, but much smaller than commercial catenary no available.  Weld the hangers in place, so they won't come apart, and the result can still be safely soldered, and sell it in 50 ft (15 meter) rolls.
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