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GaryHinshaw

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Re: SD70ACU from Kato
« Reply #45 on: February 01, 2025, 12:57:19 PM »
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To be honest I wouldn't say there is much change in performance since the first run Dash 9s apart from some newer motors. I make some changes to the reference voltage and BEMF settings, and things definitely run pretty sweet after that.

All my Kato SD40-2 Mids have warped handrails towards the rear porch :( but then I probably have a roster skewed more towards these units and suffer accordingly.

I'm pretty happy with my ST Dash-9 now.  It's running smoothly (and quietly) in a consist with my Kato units.  And the factory detail is very nice.  I should give my T4s some more attention...

Yeah, the Kato SD40-2 handrails SUCK.  That lean-in towards the back porch drives me bonkers (my OCD).  The hood width is hard to ignore too.  If I get another SD40-2 it would almost certainly be an ST model, but I don't really need any.

How about an early pre-EPA oil bunker top and filler hatch for their FEF tenders, making a very easy and proper post-1946 to 1959 FEF-3 without the oil dams and safety appliances that the modernized 844 has??

That's cute Bob.  I have an image of you going to the Kato boardroom in Tokyo and pitching this idea to the Kato brass.  They would be very polite.

I have to believe the only reason the SD70ACU gets a 2nd look is so they can sell CP heritage units.   They'll probably throw in a few NS and/or Ferromex into the mix, but that's because it's only requires different paint.

The only way Kato will ever evolve into selling more detailed models (assuming they even want to) is if they can figure out how to make them robust and affordable.  On the latter point, they will never contract with a Chinese factory to provide any service, so they're in a similar position to Micro Trains.  But MTL has managed to enter the 21st century while still remaining (semi) affordable, so maybe Kato could too; again, assuming they even want to.

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Re: SD70ACU from Kato
« Reply #46 on: February 01, 2025, 04:05:31 PM »
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...That's cute Bob.  I have an image of you going to the Kato boardroom in Tokyo and pitching this idea to the Kato brass.  They would be very polite.

I have to believe the only reason the SD70ACU gets a 2nd look is so they can sell CP heritage units.   They'll probably throw in a few NS and/or Ferromex into the mix, but that's because it's only requires different paint.

The only way Kato will ever evolve into selling more detailed models (assuming they even want to) is if they can figure out how to make them robust and affordable.  On the latter point, they will never contract with a Chinese factory to provide any service, so they're in a similar position to Micro Trains.  But MTL has managed to enter the 21st century while still remaining (semi) affordable, so maybe Kato could too; again, assuming they even want to.

@GaryHinshaw Haha!  :D Gary, Yup...I'm sure you're 100% correct about the Kato Board being verrrry polite...and that's their problem.

Oh well!  ;)

Cheerio!
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Re: SD70ACU from Kato
« Reply #47 on: February 01, 2025, 05:06:00 PM »
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I always marvel at BLMA Craig (who started BLMA) and his work at adding detail parts to his Kato SD70ACe's. It's quite a feat but I note that he recently posted some new ST diesels.


Where is Craig posting these?

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Re: SD70ACU from Kato
« Reply #48 on: February 01, 2025, 05:33:10 PM »
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Kato has bulletproof mechanisms. They always run and they run forever. Their major contribution continues to be passenger sets with engines all at one release for a reasonable price. The freight engines like this release are great for their price point and great for getting newer modelers into our hobby. They are consistent. They fill a need.
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Re: SD70ACU from Kato
« Reply #49 on: February 01, 2025, 07:04:22 PM »
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ST is not perfect, there Tru-Color UP yellow and TTX yellow is too light.
Which ever side of the track I am on is the right side.

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Re: SD70ACU from Kato
« Reply #50 on: February 01, 2025, 07:25:57 PM »
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Just have a look on these pages, how many new models Kato announces every month https://www.katomodels.com/posters (usually updated every last Friday of the month).
The top three posters have just been announced on Friday.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2025, 07:28:42 PM by Olivani »
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Re: SD70ACU from Kato
« Reply #51 on: February 02, 2025, 08:10:21 PM »
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Re: SD70ACU from Kato
« Reply #52 on: April 23, 2025, 08:20:28 PM »
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 A website has some roads and numbers listed.

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Re: SD70ACU from Kato
« Reply #53 on: April 24, 2025, 09:04:29 AM »
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Re: SD70ACU from Kato
« Reply #54 on: April 24, 2025, 04:50:35 PM »
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It was a different one but I must have missed katos when I was looking at it

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Re: SD70ACU from Kato
« Reply #55 on: August 23, 2026, 05:51:42 AM »
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I finally got my sound-equipped SD70ACU this week. And I have admit to some annoyance that Kato hyped these models as being "developed from the ground up with all-new tooling". While the shell may be all new tooling, the chassis/mechanism is clearly the same one used in their SD80MAC and SD9043 diesels. Coulda saved myself the trouble of buying one had I known that  :x

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Re: SD70ACU from Kato
« Reply #56 on: August 23, 2026, 05:17:14 PM »
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I finally got my sound-equipped SD70ACU this week. And I have admit to some annoyance that Kato hyped these models as being "developed from the ground up with all-new tooling". While the shell may be all new tooling, the chassis/mechanism is clearly the same one used in their SD80MAC and SD9043 diesels. Coulda saved myself the trouble of buying one had I known that  :x

-Mark

All (sort of) New and they still don’t have two-color handrails. If I am going to pay more than I would for a ScaleTrains DCC/Sound unit I don’t think it’s out of line to expect the same attention to paint if not details.

And yes, I can (and will) paint them myself but it would be preferable to have them done in the factory.

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Re: SD70ACU from Kato
« Reply #57 on: August 23, 2026, 05:51:06 PM »
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Has anyone else noticed that the handrails are a bit smaller and brittle?  Unacceptable to me.
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Re: SD70ACU from Kato
« Reply #58 on: August 23, 2026, 06:06:11 PM »
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All (sort of) New and they still don’t have two-color handrails. If I am going to pay more than I would for a ScaleTrains DCC/Sound unit I don’t think it’s out of line to expect the same attention to paint if not details.

And yes, I can (and will) paint them myself but it would be preferable to have them done in the factory.

As you mentioned, to achieve this Kato would have to paint the handrails. They don't do that and probably will not do that in the future. It is just not their thing. Just like they don't use glue to hold the model's parts together.
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Re: SD70ACU from Kato
« Reply #59 on: August 23, 2026, 10:01:34 PM »
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As you mentioned, to achieve this Kato would have to paint the handrails. They don't do that and probably will not do that in the future. It is just not their thing. Just like they don't use glue to hold the model's parts together.

I agree it’s not their thing, but for the $$$ they are asking it might have to be?

Or maybe not? I don’t have a firm grasp on how prototypically fussy most N-scalers are.