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Lowell Smith GN / NP sleepers
« on: September 10, 2024, 10:22:23 AM »
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Email dropped in this morning - three sets of paired sleepers, for preorder now and delivery next year.

1947 Builder sleepers, with skirts - https://lowellsmith.net/product/gn-pass-sleeper-pair-47-builder/

Western Star sleepers, de-skirted: https://lowellsmith.net/product/gn-pass-sleeper-pair-western-star/

NCL, no skirts (cannot recall at the moment if they were skirted at any point or not and too lazy to look it up): https://lowellsmith.net/product/railsmith-ncl-duplex-sleeper-pair-2/

He also announced a National Park steam loco but under a minute of poking around didn't find the link. So good luck.
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Re: Lowell Smith GN / NP sleepers
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2024, 01:54:16 PM »
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Re: Lowell Smith GN / NP sleepers
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2024, 08:48:40 PM »
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Are all these "prototype" models or "classic"?

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Re: Lowell Smith GN / NP sleepers
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2024, 09:21:21 PM »
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Are all these "prototype" models or "classic"?

If you follow the links and read the descriptions,   one of these cars are stated as being “Classic” which generally means that for RailSmith that that are very close to the prototype.

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Re: Lowell Smith GN / NP sleepers
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2024, 09:27:31 PM »
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NCL sleepers are prototype.
GN are Classic
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Re: Lowell Smith GN / NP sleepers
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2024, 09:38:58 PM »
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I must have missed that.

When it comes to RailSmith, even their “Classic” cars are usually
closer than anything that you can buy.

Unless you plan on building each of the cars individually, they are about as close as you can buy.

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Re: Lowell Smith GN / NP sleepers
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2024, 11:27:01 PM »
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The GN and NP duplex sleepers were similar but had the vestibule on opposite ends.   Rapido made the correct GN car years ago.
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Re: Lowell Smith GN / NP sleepers
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2024, 02:28:01 PM »
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The GN and NP duplex sleepers were similar but had the vestibule on opposite ends.   Rapido made the correct GN car years ago.

Sort of correct.  The Rapido model was a Canadian duplex sleeper.  While the vestibule was on the right end for GN, there are other construction differences.  And the bunk windows are missing. 

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Re: Lowell Smith GN / NP sleepers
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2024, 06:49:49 PM »
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The GN and NP duplex sleepers were similar but had the vestibule on opposite ends.   Rapido made the correct GN car years ago.
Also, if I recall correctly, the NP cars had 6 roomettes where the GN cars had 4 sections.

NP:  8 duplex roomettes, 6 roomettes, 4 bedrooms.
GN:  8 duplex roomettes, 4 sections, 4 bedrooms.  (Or 3 bedrooms and 1 compartment?)

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Re: Lowell Smith GN / NP sleepers
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2024, 08:14:37 PM »
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Just for the sake of complete-ness, the CN cars were 8 dup-rmt, 4 bedroom, 4 section, with the vestibule at the duplex-roomette end of the car.
Diagram here, if you want to compare it to see how close it is (or isn't) to whatever you might be modeling-
https://www.cwrailway.ca/cnrha.ca/sites/default/files/Passenger%20car%20drawings/Parlor/CN%201110-1161_PS-79-C_blk_A_nd_ps.jpg
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Re: Lowell Smith GN / NP sleepers
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2024, 09:30:23 PM »
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Just for the sake of complete-ness, the CN cars were 8 dup-rmt, 4 bedroom, 4 section, with the vestibule at the duplex-roomette end of the car.
Diagram here, if you want to compare it to see how close it is (or isn't) to whatever you might be modeling-
https://www.cwrailway.ca/cnrha.ca/sites/default/files/Passenger%20car%20drawings/Parlor/CN%201110-1161_PS-79-C_blk_A_nd_ps.jpg
Looks like the same floor plan as a Chateau sleeper?  (VIA ex-CP)?

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Re: Lowell Smith GN / NP sleepers
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2024, 09:52:09 PM »
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The Chateau is a Budd fluted car  and the CN 'E' Sleepers were smoothside built by Pullman Standard.

Via gives the current accommodations as
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3 sets of upper/lower berths, 8 single bedrooms, 1 triple bedroom, 3 double bedrooms, 2 common washrooms and a common shower
Wiki gives the original configuration as-
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As built each contained eight duplex roomettes, four sections, three bedrooms, and one drawing room

Close, but not quite identical configuration.  Did Rapido do the Chateau cars as part of the Canadian?
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Re: Lowell Smith GN / NP sleepers
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2024, 01:58:11 AM »
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The GN removed the small bunk windows from SOME of their cars, so one really needs to check pictures if that matters to you. 
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Re: Lowell Smith GN / NP sleepers
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2024, 10:58:37 AM »
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The Chateau is a Budd fluted car  and the CN 'E' Sleepers were smoothside built by Pullman Standard.

Did Rapido do the Chateau cars as part of the Canadian?
Yes, the Chateau sleepers were included in Rapido’s The Canadian set (and yes, CP’s name for the train was “THE Canadian”) (fun fact).

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Re: Lowell Smith GN / NP sleepers
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2024, 02:07:09 AM »
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I'd love to have a Chateau sleeper, as they ran in Amtrak in 1973/74, but not enough to buy an entire passenger train to get one.
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