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Deluxe Innovations Container "Glue" - What is it?
« on: September 18, 2023, 01:26:00 AM »
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I was going through some containers today and noticed a couple were stuck together with the yellow Deluxe Innovations container glue.
It's more of a putty and works well.
Anyone know what substance currently available would be similar in function?
Most of my containers have magnets but I have a few old Fine N Scale cast resin containers that would be easier to double stack with this type of stuff.
Here's a reference link:
https://www.nscalesupply.com/dei/dei-990101.html

jagged ben

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Re: Deluxe Innovations Container "Glue" - What is it?
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2023, 01:42:38 AM »
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It's tacky putty like you'd get at an office supply store to temporarily stick posters to walls.

I highly recommend it.  From your typical office supply source, that is, not the overpriced unavailable rebranded Deluxe packages. 

I don't use it much for stacking containers (I use magnets) but I use it for securing trailers and containers to flat cars and things like that.  Also to keep weights inside containers from sliding back and forth, and to keep 40ft containers from moving around in 53ft wells.
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Re: Deluxe Innovations Container "Glue" - What is it?
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2023, 02:09:17 AM »
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Good advice, I'll pick some up. Thanks Jagged Ben.

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Re: Deluxe Innovations Container "Glue" - What is it?
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2023, 02:12:24 AM »
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We bought the stuff in bulk from a Museum Supply company and packaged it in a better size for modelers. At the time, there were not a lot of compatible size containers, and we didn't want to go to an oversize pin to represent the InterBox Connectors.

Because the Twnstack was so seriously thin, we needed to have the weight in the container, which made the magnet solution impractical, thus the need for a glue that didn't affect paint and could be easily removed. Museum Putty was the answer.

George

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Re: Deluxe Innovations Container "Glue" - What is it?
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2023, 09:55:11 AM »
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Using my magnet method it's actually not impractical to add a weight after connecting the containers together without the bottom of the bottom container.  Again the tacky putty is great for keeping the weight in place to make it possible.  (Although on the old Deluxe containers it's not necessary because their weight was a press fit.)   Also, copper weights.  If I ever need more weights I'm going to cut pieces of solid 4awg copper wire.

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Re: Deluxe Innovations Container "Glue" - What is it?
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2023, 10:44:23 AM »
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We bought the stuff in bulk from a Museum Supply company and packaged it in a better size for modelers. At the time, there were not a lot of compatible size containers, and we didn't want to go to an oversize pin to represent the InterBox Connectors.

Because the Twnstack was so seriously thin, we needed to have the weight in the container, which made the magnet solution impractical, thus the need for a glue that didn't affect paint and could be easily removed. Museum Putty was the answer.

George

Important point here: the stuff you get at an office supply store might not be as friendly to paint as the high quality museum stuff.

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Re: Deluxe Innovations Container "Glue" - What is it?
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2023, 10:48:22 AM »
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It's too bad that the Twinstack models are no longer available.  :lament: :ot:

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Re: Deluxe Innovations Container "Glue" - What is it?
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2023, 11:20:35 AM »
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Important point here: the stuff you get at an office supply store might not be as friendly to paint as the high quality museum stuff.

We used this for posters on our kids walls and I remember being unimpressed with the stain left behind.  I'm sure it varies by product.

I use magnets, but sometimes they don't work or play nice and I find gravity works just fine  :)

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Re: Deluxe Innovations Container "Glue" - What is it?
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2023, 11:21:11 AM »
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I use https://www.dickblick.com/products/collectors-hold-museum-putty/   to conceal 3 module joints with road constructed out of styrene.  This may be the stuff.

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Re: Deluxe Innovations Container "Glue" - What is it?
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2023, 12:34:06 PM »
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It's too bad that the Twinstack models are no longer available.  :lament: :ot:

Ed

Ed- I absolutely agree. A significant prototype in telling the intermodal story.

When my real job got too busy to continue deLuxe and I 'sold' it to Dave, somehow shrtly after the transfer major portions of tooling were lost when he chose to move it to China. Unfortunately, the Twinstack, which was essentially a flat kit to preserve the interior detail, was one of the tools that disappeared. The weights in the set were copper that was "pot chromed" to make sure they were magnetically inert. jagged ben is spot on regarding the material.

George

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Re: Deluxe Innovations Container "Glue" - What is it?
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2023, 01:32:38 AM »
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Using my magnet method it's actually not impractical to add a weight after connecting the containers together without the bottom of the bottom container.  Again the tacky putty is great for keeping the weight in place to make it possible.  (Although on the old Deluxe containers it's not necessary because their weight was a press fit.)   Also, copper weights.  If I ever need more weights I'm going to cut pieces of solid 4awg copper wire.

I'm using your method for most of my containers, works great! Just ordered a couple hundred more magnets a couple weeks ago. My resin containers just need the sticky method.

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Re: Deluxe Innovations Container "Glue" - What is it?
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2023, 01:38:48 AM »
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Ed- I absolutely agree. A significant prototype in telling the intermodal story.

When my real job got too busy to continue deLuxe and I 'sold' it to Dave, somehow shrtly after the transfer major portions of tooling were lost when he chose to move it to China. Unfortunately, the Twinstack, which was essentially a flat kit to preserve the interior detail, was one of the tools that disappeared. The weights in the set were copper that was "pot chromed" to make sure they were magnetically inert. jagged ben is spot on regarding the material.

George

Thanks for the history George! The TwinStacks are great.
I just came across the LoPac 2000...
https://www.trovestar.com/generic/index.php?Collection=4&Body_Style=DLX-CNC-LOPAC
any idea if the tooling still exists from the original Interail?

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Re: Deluxe Innovations Container "Glue" - What is it?
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2023, 10:43:17 AM »
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I just came across the LoPac 2000...
https://www.trovestar.com/generic/index.php?Collection=4&Body_Style=DLX-CNC-LOPAC
Quoth Mr. Wallet: Ouch!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284222481249
https://www.ebay.com/itm/295090688390

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any idea if the tooling still exists from the original Interail?

I wonder if those could be made in a 3D resin print... anyone got any drawings? AAR type? other info?

(FTM that could also go for the Maxi I....)

Ed

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Re: Deluxe Innovations Container "Glue" - What is it?
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2023, 11:26:11 AM »
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Quoth Mr. Wallet: Ouch!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284222481249
https://www.ebay.com/itm/295090688390

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I wonder if those could be made in a 3D resin print... anyone got any drawings? AAR type? other info?

(FTM that could also go for the Maxi I....)

Ed
Pretty sure this guy just reverse engineered the Deluxe models
Twinstacks
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5452926
Maxi 1
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5454437
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Re: Deluxe Innovations Container "Glue" - What is it?
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2023, 12:58:42 PM »
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Wow, he has a lot of interesting models, including many types of intermodal, freight and passenger cars.