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Re: ATSF doodlebugs M-115, M-150, M-130/175/184 classes from ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2022, 03:50:55 PM »
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Those sure are pretty. Something that in the past one would only expect to be available as a brass model.  In the last few years 3D printing sure has been changing our hobby, and it is getting better and better.
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Re: ATSF doodlebugs M-115, M-150, M-130/175/184 classes from ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2022, 05:17:20 PM »
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Thanks John,

I am also a happy guy with one of those brass M-190's  (in warbonnet).
Still contemplating if a 3D version is an option........ or M-160......?
Have pretty good plans/drawings for both but still not sure.

Regards, Dirk
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Re: ATSF doodlebugs M-115, M-150, M-130/175/184 classes from ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2022, 07:40:41 PM »
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Were any of these "standard" cars from a manufacturer?

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Re: ATSF doodlebugs M-115, M-150, M-130/175/184 classes from ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2022, 11:10:21 PM »
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Thanks John,

I am also a happy guy with one of those brass M-190's  (in warbonnet).
Still contemplating if a 3D version is an option........ or M-160......?
Have pretty good plans/drawings for both but still not sure.

Regards, Dirk


How about both? But of course I would say that!   :D :D

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Re: ATSF doodlebugs M-115, M-150, M-130/175/184 classes from ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2022, 08:05:20 AM »
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Fantastic work Dirk .. You do an awesome job combining the new technology with detail parts to make a very convincing model .. That's modeling :)

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Re: ATSF doodlebugs M-115, M-150, M-130/175/184 classes from ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2022, 03:20:14 PM »
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Were any of these "standard" cars from a manufacturer?
Hi Ed,

Not sure what you mean...... the prototypes were made by EMC in the 1920's, Santa Fe has quite a few..... All 3 - different - models are 3D prints (with etched stainless steel details) and are available in kit form from WWW.ATSFNSCALEMODELS.COM.
Drive train made from 2 modified Tomytec chassis, DC or DCC with or without sound (ESU decoder/Caterpillar sound).

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Re: ATSF doodlebugs M-115, M-150, M-130/175/184 classes from ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2022, 03:47:26 PM »
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Re: ATSF doodlebugs M-115, M-150, M-130/175/184 classes from ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2022, 10:09:30 AM »
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Hi Ed,

Not sure what you mean...... the prototypes were made by EMC in the 1920's, Santa Fe has quite a few..... All 3 - different - models are 3D prints (with etched stainless steel details) and are available in kit form from WWW.ATSFNSCALEMODELS.COM.
Drive train made from 2 modified Tomytec chassis, DC or DCC with or without sound (ESU decoder/Caterpillar sound).



Oh, I'm sorry, I mean't "how many of these types of cars were purchased by Santa Fe as, essentially, catalog models from manufacturers?".

Essentially, how much reuse potential is there for these outside you ATSF heads.

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Re: ATSF doodlebugs M-115, M-150, M-130/175/184 classes from ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2022, 11:18:38 AM »
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Ed,

Relying  on an old memory here, but I think the 175 class on ATSF were EMC model 148 of late 1920s vintage. Googling just now, I did find an online reference on trainorders site that stated that ATSF 177 was a model 148, and one of the 4 that ATSF did not convert to diesel prime movers.  But that said, I'm not sure how much of the length, width, hardware on the roof, louver locations, etc. was standard equipment, and how much ATSF specific.  There are certainly other roads that had EMC doodlebugs that were similar in appearance. 

If you want to compare to your favorite road's prototypes, check out the "motor car" section's photos on Jerry Laboda's passenger car site (backed up here: http://passcarphotos.rypn.org/Indices/DB1a.htm - I find the site links work better if you download the "passcarphotos.zip" file from the rypn - which you will find in the intro at the top of the page I linked- you can install it on your own computer.)

Edit- I ran across this 'definition' of a Model 148 on a google group, provided by Evan Werkema https://groups.google.com/g/rec.railroad/c/fCPqEFF55bw
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it's a lot easier to say "EMC Model 148 car" than "St. Louis Car body with a
Winton Model 148 distillate engine with GE generator and traction equipment
brought together at St. Louis by EMC."

So, "Model 148" appears to cover anything with a Winton 148 engine inside it.

 
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Re: ATSF doodlebugs M-115, M-150, M-130/175/184 classes from ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2022, 08:30:02 AM »
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Ed,

I agree with Tom and have not been able to find the exact same cars (as used by ATSF) on other roads.
Many are basically look alikes but there are always big or small differences in door locations/RPO or not/number of passenger windows/radiators/front end appearance/ underbody detail......... 

good luck, Dirk
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Re: ATSF doodlebugs M-115, M-150, M-130/175/184 classes from ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2022, 03:47:49 PM »
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These are just beautiful, unique models.
I hope nobody minds if I add a couple of my favorite proto photos of the M-181 from the Los Angeles Division, where it replaced a steam powered local to San Bernardino at the very end of the steam era in SoCal. Photos by Stan Kistler.

Dirk, please hold one of these for me. I need to make a list of your other models I "need", to spread the cost of shipping.
Thanks much, with kind regards,
Otto
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Re: ATSF doodlebugs M-115, M-150, M-130/175/184 classes from ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2022, 04:39:55 PM »
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Hi Otto,

Thanks and I will...... whenever you are ready!

Nice pictures by the way.......

Regards, Dirk

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