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tehachapifan

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Re: Do the Kato 932090 Wheelsets Fit the LL/Walthers N GP60?
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2022, 07:40:34 PM »
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Here's what I use to adjust those Kato wheelsets:
https://www.amazon.com/Zacro-Closer-Watchmaker-Repair-Fitting/dp/B073PW85HS

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And only $15! Thanks for the link!

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Re: Do the Kato 932090 Wheelsets Fit the LL/Walthers N GP60?
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2022, 08:01:08 PM »
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Here is what I use.
https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=48520.msg643634#msg643634
The watch pin press might cost a bit more now in ‘22, what doesn’t?
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Re: Do the Kato 932090 Wheelsets Fit the LL/Walthers N GP60?
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2022, 08:08:20 PM »
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Here is what I use.
https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=48520.msg643634#msg643634
The watch pin press might cost a bit more now in ‘22, what doesn’t?

Yes, a screw-type press gives you better control than a lever-type press.
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Re: Do the Kato 932090 Wheelsets Fit the LL/Walthers N GP60?
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2022, 06:47:46 PM »
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Okay, so I'm finally home and had some time to go through my parts bin.

I managed to find the original LifeLike wheels, and I can confirm that they are exactly the same diameter as Peteski measured for his GP20 wheels. I think the only reason that this was an issue in my case was because my two GP60s have custom plows, and these were fitted prior to the re-wheeling.

Here is a quick phone pic of the side profile of one of the LifeLike shells on a Fox Valley Models chassis — you can see that the plow clearance is very tight:

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In my case the 0.15mm lowering was enough for the plow to hit the rails. However, I think that it's entirely likely that this will not be an issue with the stock plow.


Sorry @tehachapifan I've really not been as helpful here as I would have wished here…
  • I can't verify compatibility of the Kato axles with the original trucks because they are goneburger
  • I can't verify the clearance of the stock LifeLike plow height with the Kato wheels in any truck because I don't have a stock shell

All I can (unhelpfully) say is that a Fox Valley GP60 chassis does fit under a LifeLike shell if you remove the Fox Valley spacers and replace them with some tape to get just the right clearance for the flywheels, and you retain the Fox Valley fuel tank. The long hood is a very tight fit, but it works.

It's an expensive solution, but this gave me the correct trucks, nice Code 40 compatible wheels, a plug-in DCC ready frame, while letting me keep the already detailed shells (credit to Steve4Painting for the lovely detailing and ditch light install — done long before the FVM release)…

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Re: Do the Kato 932090 Wheelsets Fit the LL/Walthers N GP60?
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2022, 11:03:01 PM »
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Thanks for the clarification on the wheel size issue! I couldn't figure out why such a miniscule difference on diameter between the stock wheels and the Kato wheels caused your shell to sit too low, but the plow being mounted really low to start with makes sense! Once my press tool arrives, I'll play around with the Kato wheelsets and see if I can make them work.


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Re: Do the Kato 932090 Wheelsets Fit the LL/Walthers N GP60?
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2022, 11:08:36 PM »
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Once my press tool arrives, I'll play around with the Kato wheelsets and see if I can make them work.

You should have no problem. Like I mentioned, I tested the fit with a pair of Kato wheelsets I have previously adjusted to fit Atlas trucks.
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