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BOXCABS!
« on: November 19, 2021, 05:55:02 PM »
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In this topic: https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=53010.0

The "DKS" @DKS   flattened a pretty well detailed photo of a Long Island boxcab. I took that photo and "traced" it in AutoCAD to import into Sketchup. Apparently I have no idea how to use Sketchup, but I did spit out a 3D model of this loco.



This site has some good photos:
https://www.arrts-arrchives.com/ENG403.html

And this site:
http://members.trainweb.com/bedt/indloco/prrn4.html
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Locomotive #403 A was originally part of a binary pair; #403 A and #403 B. I have been unable to ascertain if operation required an engineer in each unit, or there was a primitive "m.u." (multiple unit) connection, allowing one engineer to operate both units simultaneously.

   According to data compiled by Sam Berliner; #403 A and #403 B were originally constructed being semi-permanently coupled (via drawbar) and had no inner buffer beams, draft gear, couplers, steps, and such. They had to be rebuilt to operate independently and they were probably separated and modified for independent operation when they were rebuilt in December 1929.

   Bob Levernight adds the following: according to Kirkland's Dawn of the Diesel Age, (p 111); LIRR 403 A-403 B were Westinghouse units built at East Pittsburgh, powered by Beardmore diesel engines, with bodies built by Baldwin.  They were equipped with pneumatic throttles which operated both diesel engine's fuel racks. Drawbar connected, but built to accept a conventional MCB coupler. Kirkland also attributes these as the first Multiple Unit (MU) diesel-electric.

These were my first test prints.



In N scale this thing is only about 1.5" long.
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Re: Long Island boxcabs.
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2021, 06:02:41 PM »
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Looking good! Excellent modeling.
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Re: Long Island boxcabs.
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2021, 06:10:39 PM »
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This is another test print with roof details.



The box in the back is a radiator. The bigger tank in the center is for water. Had to guess on a lot of these details. I have about 10 photos of this locomotive, but they are all taken down at ground level.

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Re: Long Island boxcabs.
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2021, 06:52:29 PM »
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Assume work. Beautiful.

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Re: Long Island boxcabs.
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2021, 07:29:07 PM »
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Re: Long Island boxcabs.
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2021, 10:33:48 PM »
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In this topic: https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=53010.0

The "DKS" flattened a pretty well detailed photo of a Long Island boxcab. I took that photo and "traced" it in AutoCAD to import into Sketchup. Apparently I have no idea how to use Sketchup, but I did spit out a 3D model of this loco.


I don't think it is that at all.
You do know how to use SketchUp, but you just don't know all of its features, or certain tricks/features, or acquired out-of-the-box thinking to obtain the results you are after.  That boxcab looks really, really good.
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Re: Long Island boxcabs.
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2021, 10:46:56 PM »
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I asked on a Sketchup forum how to fix these problems and without laughing, they all laughed at me. Like how I could quickly have drawn it in Sketchup using a few rectangles. I have never once in 3-4 years of Sketchup used a rectangle.

And they kept telling me about making groups, but I didn't understand one bit of it. Even went and watched a few videos and really have no idea why I need to make groups. If I need to I just copy and paste to get multipule items.

They did show me how array works though.

And after they all told me I needed to redraw all those circles to change their segment count. I redrew it. Then someone comes along and tells me there is a plugin that would have done it all in one step. Installed it and he was right. Why does a drawing program need plugins?

Either way I got a boxcab.

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Re: Long Island boxcabs.
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2021, 12:09:15 AM »
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@Chris333 how do you feel about Alco 2-8-2T Minarets?   :D
If I could identify a chassis with small enough driver diameter and an integrated drive (no tender, because there wasn’t one) that would be my unicorn.
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Re: Long Island boxcabs.
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2021, 12:11:43 AM »
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@Chris333 how do you feel about Alco 2-8-2T Minarets?   :D
If I could identify a chassis with small enough driver diameter and an integrated drive (no tender, because there wasn’t one) that would be my unicorn.

Count me in .

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Re: Long Island boxcabs.
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2021, 12:16:19 AM »
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I need drawings, plans, blueprints, serial numbers, birth certificate, etc.

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Re: Long Island boxcabs.
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2021, 12:56:58 AM »
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I need drawings, plans, blueprints, serial numbers, birth certificate, etc.


Standby.
I really suspect the drive will be a huge issue.
If I recall, correctly from the time I spent with my Uncle restoring Hammond Lumber #16, they were equipped with 44” drivers and
20”x24” cylinders.

I know very little about N Scale Steam, so this could be a roadblock at the beginning.

Photos and Serial #’s shouldn’t be an issue, drawings and plans, I’ll need to work on.
I think there were only 20 of the 2-8-2T version built.
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Re: Long Island boxcabs.
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2021, 01:52:51 AM »
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Was joking about the serial numbers...  :trollface:

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Re: Long Island boxcabs.
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2021, 02:14:14 AM »
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Was joking about the serial numbers...  :trollface:


Duh.  :D
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Re: Long Island boxcabs.
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2021, 06:41:03 AM »
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I have Coos Bay Lumber #11 plans. Is that what you wanted?

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Re: Long Island boxcabs.
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2021, 02:02:48 PM »
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Yep, that’s it.
Going to have to dig into what 0-8-0’s or 2-8-2’s, Japanese or European might have “close” driver diameters and wheelbase.
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