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Re: Resistance wheelsets
« Reply #45 on: October 28, 2021, 03:32:53 PM »
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FWIW this is a pretty good YouTube for Daryl Kruse's method of installing resistors on N scale wheelsets. I operated on his layout when he was in Georgia, and all of his fleet had at resistance wheelsets - to the best of my memory - and his block detection was excellent. It was always a pleasure to operate because the dispatcher had a good idea of the locations of trains on the layout.

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Re: Resistance wheelsets
« Reply #46 on: October 29, 2021, 09:19:08 AM »
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Group;
FWIW this is a pretty good YouTube for Daryl Kruse's method of installing resistors on N scale wheelsets. I operated on his layout when he was in Georgia, and all of his fleet had at resistance wheelsets - to the best of my memory - and his block detection was excellent. It was always a pleasure to operate because the dispatcher had a good idea of the locations of trains on the layout.

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Bill


But he's a turncoat so must be shunned, right @davefoxx ?

(I'm kidding, in case the sarcasm is not apparent)

Thanks for the video!

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Re: Resistance wheelsets
« Reply #47 on: October 29, 2021, 09:53:53 AM »
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But he's a turncoat so must be shunned, right @davefoxx ?

(I'm kidding, in case the sarcasm is not apparent)

Thanks for the video!

He was assimilated.  Yeah, we added his biological and technological distinctiveness to our own.  Sorry for any inconvenience.
 
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Re: Resistance wheelsets
« Reply #48 on: October 29, 2021, 12:58:04 PM »
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He was assimilated.  Yeah, we added his biological and technological distinctiveness to our own.  Sorry for any inconvenience.
 
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The HO Borg

Yea .. but the process is the same for HO as N .. in fact, I would still use the smaller resistors in HO -- if possible to hide them

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Re: Resistance wheelsets
« Reply #49 on: October 29, 2021, 01:38:20 PM »
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...we added his biological and technological distinctiveness to our own.  Sorry for any inconvenience.

I can just see the ST writers adding this to the script.   :trollface:
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Re: Resistance wheelsets
« Reply #50 on: October 29, 2021, 07:15:36 PM »
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I can just see the ST writers adding this to the script.   :trollface:
Only after the Borg have come to the Earth and took it over, because nobody else is as apologetic as the Earthlings.

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Re: Resistance wheelsets
« Reply #51 on: October 30, 2021, 11:29:25 PM »
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So I just did a few cabooses with my resistors and conductive paint.

Pretty damn easy.

Use a little CA on the back of the resistors, stick it to the axle, and two dabs of paint.

Just make sure you put the resistors on where they won't interfere with any underbody stuff.

It was very gratifying sitting the car on the track and seeing the CTC panel light up.

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Re: Resistance wheelsets
« Reply #52 on: October 30, 2021, 11:40:12 PM »
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Cool.
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Re: Resistance wheelsets
« Reply #53 on: October 31, 2021, 12:40:51 PM »
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So I just did a few cabooses with my resistors and conductive paint.

Pretty damn easy.

Use a little CA on the back of the resistors, stick it to the axle, and two dabs of paint.

Just make sure you put the resistors on where they won't interfere with any underbody stuff.

It was very gratifying sitting the car on the track and seeing the CTC panel light up.
Ed:
Sounds like a plan. As Daryl noted, putting the resistor on an inner wheelset at least avoids a conflict with the coupler boxes. Thanks for the update.
Kind regards,
Bill

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Re: Resistance wheelsets
« Reply #54 on: October 31, 2021, 02:01:46 PM »
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This is what victory looks like, gents.

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Re: Resistance wheelsets
« Reply #55 on: October 31, 2021, 02:44:13 PM »
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Re: Resistance wheelsets
« Reply #56 on: October 31, 2021, 07:05:12 PM »
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This is what victory looks like, gents.

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I recmd you also add a little weight to the cabeeses to help out .. I found that when I have a train in a siding thats stopped, and I start the panel, there is a 50/50 chance the detection won't pick up the stationary vehicle







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Re: Resistance wheelsets
« Reply #57 on: October 31, 2021, 08:19:35 PM »
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I recmd you also add a little weight to the cabeeses to help out .. I found that when I have a train in a siding thats stopped, and I start the panel, there is a 50/50 chance the detection won't pick up the stationary vehicle








Yep. I think that's gonna be on the agenda too.

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Re: Resistance wheelsets
« Reply #58 on: November 01, 2021, 09:24:09 AM »
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So, one thing to mention.

See that squirt bottle of water?

It was there as a result of testing some wheels.

On one of them, there must've been something going on with the conductive paint because when I put the car on the track I got a bright light from under it, a waft of smoke, and a tiny little flame.

After dropping the truck off the car I tried it again. This time I got a tiny little arc. I tried getting a photo but whatever it was burned itself off quickly.
The wheelset got HOT, but luckily not enough to melt the truck or damage the  car (although it would've been quite prototypical).

This all reminds me of two things:
1. Don't leave your powered up layout unattended.
2. I'm now going to make sure my hidden staging tracks are powered off when power is not needed.

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Re: Resistance wheelsets
« Reply #59 on: November 01, 2021, 09:33:01 AM »
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So, one thing to mention.

See that squirt bottle of water?

It was there as a result of testing some wheels.

On one of them, there must've been something going on with the conductive paint because when I put the car on the track I got a bright light from under it, a waft of smoke, and a tiny little flame.

After dropping the truck off the car I tried it again. This time I got a tiny little arc. I tried getting a photo but whatever it was burned itself off quickly.
The wheelset got HOT, but luckily not enough to melt the truck or damage the  car (although it would've been quite prototypical).

This all reminds me of two things:
1. Don't leave your powered up layout unattended.
2. I'm now going to make sure my hidden staging tracks are powered off when power is not needed.


It's possible some of the conductive paint got below the resistor and shorted it out .. I always let them dry overnight and then check conductivity with a meter ..