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Dirk Jan Blikkendaal

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The Santa fe passenger diesels 1 Spot and 1A booster are available as 3D prints from ATSF N Scale Models and directly from Shapeways.
Go to the website WWW.ATSFNSCALEMODELS.COM for details on history, building instructions and ordering options.
These shells are designed to ride on a modified (shortened) KATO E8/9 chassis. Also available are 3D prints of the truck sideframes.
The models can be operated on DC, DCC and DCC/sound, using the decoder of your choice.
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Re: N scale ATSF passenger diesels 1 Spot and 1A booster by ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2021, 06:14:13 PM »
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I don't model the Santa Fe, but those are beautiful.  I look forward to seeing more products.  The rolling stock makes me hope you'll be doing more generically applicable car parts, like ends and roofs, doors, etc.
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Re: N scale ATSF passenger diesels 1 Spot and 1A booster by ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2021, 10:49:27 PM »
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Those are awesome Dirk, nice to see them in Warbonnet paint. I'll have to order some  :D

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Re: N scale ATSF passenger diesels 1 Spot and 1A booster by ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2021, 09:21:59 AM »
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I'm wondering why early cab units had so many roof vents. The DL109 original version was likewise. Did the designers think the enclosed diesel engines would pour out poisonous fumes? Or choking clouds of smoke?

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Re: N scale ATSF passenger diesels 1 Spot and 1A booster by ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2021, 09:36:34 AM »
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I don't model the Santa Fe, but those are beautiful.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  I think the One Spot looks like an E-unit that's had a run in with a wall.  Now, if you're talking about the model, well, then, yes, they are beautifully crafted.  Kudos, @Dirk Jan Blikkendaal!

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Re: N scale ATSF passenger diesels 1 Spot and 1A booster by ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2021, 09:38:48 AM »
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I'm wondering why early cab units had so many roof vents. The DL109 original version was likewise. Did the designers think the enclosed diesel engines would pour out poisonous fumes? Or choking clouds of smoke?

Cooling.  At least with the One Spot Twins, the trailing unit had overheating problems that required the additional roof vents to get cool air to the radiators.

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Re: N scale ATSF passenger diesels 1 Spot and 1A booster by ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2021, 10:21:39 AM »
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Outstanding work, as usual, Dirk!
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Re: N scale ATSF passenger diesels 1 Spot and 1A booster by ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2021, 09:49:46 PM »
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The units look excellent!
Please do EMC 512 / ATSF 1C also good for EMC 511 / protection power for CB&Q 9904/5 and 9906A/9907A.  The EMC were in at least two different paint schemes and may be good standing for B&O / Alton unit as well.
For these the Kato EF65 mech with the middle dummy truck removed and power trucks swapped out with ALCO B trucks will work.
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Re: N scale ATSF passenger diesels 1 Spot and 1A booster by ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2021, 10:17:21 PM »
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Excellent work Dirk. 

I'm wondering why early cab units had so many roof vents. The DL109 original version was likewise. Did the designers think the enclosed diesel engines would pour out poisonous fumes? Or choking clouds of smoke?
Cooling.  At least with the One Spot Twins, the trailing unit had overheating problems that required the additional roof vents to get cool air to the radiators.

DFF

Yep.  I think if ATSF had held off on the rebuild for a couple years, these units might have ended up with fans from FTs or E6s up on the roof instead of the vents.
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Re: N scale ATSF passenger diesels 1 Spot and 1A booster by ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2021, 04:46:40 AM »
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The units look excellent!
Please do EMC 512 / ATSF 1C also good for EMC 511 / protection power for CB&Q 9904/5 and 9906A/9907A.  The EMC were in at least two different paint schemes and may be good standing for B&O / Alton unit as well.
For these the Kato EF65 mech with the middle dummy truck removed and power trucks swapped out with ALCO B trucks will work.
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Hi Charlie,
OK, I will have a look atg 512, but first I want to finish 2611 and do Amos and Andy. And hopefully sell some shells of 1 Spot and 1A first to justify making the others....... I can imagine people think these shells are not cheap but the markup over actual printing cost (Shapeways) to cover the 3D drawing cost (I cannot possibly draw these models myself.... a good 3D designer does that for me at a reduced/friendly hourly rate...) is less than $25..... which means I have to sell many shells to reach the break even point.......and the target group of customers is not very large...... making a profit (even a slight one) is way out of the question (this goes for all my models) but I simply like doing it and having some nice/unique models myself....
 
Thanks for the tip on the drive , but I think I have an even cheaper/easier solution (for Amos and Andy or 512)  already...... see picture...... any narrow hood Alco diesel will do probably but I took an Atlas RS. Cut the frame between geartower and motor on 1 side, glue a thin scrap strip of brass/phosphor bronze/stainless steel along the total length on both sides with Zap A Gap medium CA, lengthen 1 drive shaft a bit (brass tube sleeve and steel rod)...... and you have the perfect drive...... its rock solid and has ample room for added wheight and also a decoder (with sound) of your choice if you want.

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Re: N scale ATSF passenger diesels 1 Spot and 1A booster by ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2021, 12:17:23 PM »
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Hi Charlie,
OK, I will have a look atg 512, but first I want to finish 2611 and do Amos and Andy. And hopefully sell some shells of 1 Spot and 1A first to justify making the others....... I can imagine people think these shells are not cheap but the markup over actual printing cost (Shapeways) to cover the 3D drawing cost (I cannot possibly draw these models myself.... a good 3D designer does that for me at a reduced/friendly hourly rate...) is less than $25..... which means I have to sell many shells to reach the break even point.......and the target group of customers is not very large...... making a profit (even a slight one) is way out of the question (this goes for all my models) but I simply like doing it and having some nice/unique models myself....
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I'm highlighting a part of Dirk's post in the hope people will READ and REREAD it. There are not that many of us interested in this kind of prototype specific modeling. If you are, and are able to, buy the stuff NOW. Only then can we hope to expect more of these wonderful and unique models from Dirk.
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Re: N scale ATSF passenger diesels 1 Spot and 1A booster by ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2021, 08:14:36 PM »
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 Definatly Fugly , But if it was HO scale I'd probably buy a set .......Mike

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Re: N scale ATSF passenger diesels 1 Spot and 1A booster by ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2021, 11:02:50 PM »
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Definatly Fugly , But if it was HO scale I'd probably buy a set .......Mike

Well since it is 3D printed  couldn't you just scale the model %184 and just special order it?
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Re: N scale ATSF passenger diesels 1 Spot and 1A booster by ATSF N Scale Models
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2021, 02:38:07 AM »
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I will check what upscaling does to the model.... and what the print will cost then....
To keep printing cost down it probably needs some thinning of the walls and also adjustment of he rivets and some other screen detail.
If thats not too expensive to draw (I do not make the drawings myself) I might do the H0 version also....   
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