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Re: ATSF/BNSF San Jacinto District - The Andy Sperandeo Treatment
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2021, 06:32:10 PM »
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Chris thanks. Could you email me the snip or .jpg of the map.
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Re: ATSF/BNSF San Jacinto District - The Andy Sperandeo Treatment
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2021, 06:34:38 PM »
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Ed will do. Some ME C-40 coming.
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Re: ATSF/BNSF San Jacinto District - The Andy Sperandeo Treatment
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2021, 02:34:29 PM »
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Questions:

1.) The photos show an approach to the long sweeping team track from the West, the CLIC shows only East. ???
2.) There is a siding with no turn out in the photos as the lumber yard. ???

http://coastdaylight.com/ph/scph/scph_hemet.html
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Re: ATSF/BNSF San Jacinto District - The Andy Sperandeo Treatment
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2021, 05:49:08 PM »
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That’s a great website.  I was all over it a few years ago when I thought I wanted to model a Central Valley shortline -either the Tidewater Southern or Central California Traction.   Capturing Hemet seems like a great modeling challenge.  go go go!!!

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Re: ATSF/BNSF San Jacinto District - The Andy Sperandeo Treatment
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2021, 07:25:20 PM »
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Thanks Michel, it's turning out to be a challenge which is a nicer word for pain the LDE a$$.
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Re: ATSF/BNSF San Jacinto District - The Andy Sperandeo Treatment
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2021, 05:35:05 AM »
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Is any of that line still active?

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Re: ATSF/BNSF San Jacinto District - The Andy Sperandeo Treatment
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2021, 08:42:45 AM »
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Eureka! Chris that is it. The photos show this plan you just posted. I think before 1985 they pulled
some of that track. ATSF ran it until the merger then BNSF closed it in 2004. There is a plan to
continue thier Metro train from South Perris to San Jacinto.
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Re: ATSF/BNSF San Jacinto District - The Chris333 Treatment
« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2021, 03:37:29 AM »
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You know two of the track plans shown have a turntable at San Jacinto, but doubt there was one. They had the wye to turn around. I would just piece together everything you like into a grand old plan.

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Re: ATSF/BNSF San Jacinto District - The Chris333 Treatment
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2021, 08:21:18 AM »
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You know two of the track plans shown have a turntable at San Jacinto, but doubt there was one. They had the wye to turn around. I would just piece together everything you like into a grand old plan.

I would imagine that the model track plans used turntables, because wyes can be space hogs when you consider the room you need for the tail track.

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Re: ATSF/BNSF San Jacinto District - The Chris333 Treatment
« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2021, 10:57:06 AM »
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I've seen San Jacinto modeled with a turntable. I don't know if there was one, if so steam era thing. Thanks
for the assist on this. I might have to really compress Hemet. Unless I start it earlier on the Eastern approach.
Then I will lose Ellis or Winchester a proposed siding for beet or other loading. I'm messing around with
another version of the track plan. Would start Hemet sooner and come up from the front of the layout. It needs
to approach on an angle so the streets parallel the track. On the exisiting plan, everything is staright in and
it doesn't match.

* I can push Winchester/Egan to to where Perris is and the main part of the layout is Hemet. Thoughts?
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Re: ATSF/BNSF San Jacinto District - The Chris333 Treatment
« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2021, 12:28:57 PM »
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Digging the point to point.  One day I'll bring myself to build one.  Until then... JFRTM!

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Re: ATSF/BNSF San Jacinto District - The Chris333 Treatment
« Reply #27 on: July 21, 2021, 01:35:59 PM »
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Lee, yeah I am going to go through a whole new world of pain Smokey (see Big Lebowski).
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Re: ATSF/BNSF San Jacinto District - The Chris333 Treatment
« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2021, 01:41:47 PM »
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So the local was called the SAN JAC LOCAL under later AT&SF and BNSF and it ran from San Bernardino and Riverside
to Highgrove, where it rolled onto the San Jacinito District. The fun thing about all of this. This was the California Southern
Railroad in the late 1800's. The plan to have a San Diego to Chicago train. The line from Elsinore to Fallbrook
washed out and they abandoned it. AT&SF continiued to run trains to Perris and then to Hemet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Southern_Railroad
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Re: ATSF/BNSF San Jacinto District - The Chris333 Treatment
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2021, 02:10:13 PM »
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The black and white aerial I posted is 1966. Any turn table is gone.