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Re: The New Northern Central
« Reply #420 on: April 26, 2021, 10:21:10 PM »
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... Also, I know it's passe to mention it, but holy ***** balls.

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Re: The New Northern Central
« Reply #421 on: April 26, 2021, 11:28:01 PM »
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Do you really need Select grade for stringer duty?  I think the Select grade at HD means fewer surface imperfections and thus more costly.

An alternative, if you need a lot of stringers, is get a sheet of 3/4 ply and cut 4" strips.  Circular saw with an edge guide will come in handy.

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Re: The New Northern Central
« Reply #422 on: April 27, 2021, 08:10:05 AM »
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Do you really need Select grade for stringer duty?  I think the Select grade at HD means fewer surface imperfections and thus more costly.

An alternative, if you need a lot of stringers, is get a sheet of 3/4 ply and cut 4" strips.  Circular saw with an edge guide will come in handy.

Have you seen plywood prices lately? Its not any better in that aisle.
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Re: The New Northern Central
« Reply #423 on: April 27, 2021, 09:20:17 AM »
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Last week I bought 96 feet of 1x square edge clear pine trim and 96 feet or 1/4 clear pine screen mould. Cost was exactly the same for both as what I bought a year ago. To the penny. On the other hand, the 3/4 birch plywood I bought went from $46 last year to $62 last week. Strange what lumber products have gone up and what have not.
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Re: The New Northern Central
« Reply #424 on: April 27, 2021, 09:22:16 AM »
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Do you really need Select grade for stringer duty?  I think the Select grade at HD means fewer surface imperfections and thus more costly.

An alternative, if you need a lot of stringers, is get a sheet of 3/4 ply and cut 4" strips.  Circular saw with an edge guide will come in handy.

Plus I don't feel like screwing with all of that.

The non top shelf stuff wasn't much better, either.

I'm glad I only need pieces in ones and twos, but I feel bad for anyone who's working on huge projects.

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Re: The New Northern Central
« Reply #425 on: April 27, 2021, 12:10:01 PM »
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Do you have a Menards where you live?  We got one a few years ago and they have like 3 or 4 grades of lumber where Home Depot just has straight/expensive and curved/cheap.

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Re: The New Northern Central
« Reply #426 on: April 27, 2021, 12:21:34 PM »
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Do you have a Menards where you live?  We got one a few years ago and they have like 3 or 4 grades of lumber where Home Depot just has straight/expensive and curved/cheap.

Agreed, but closest Menards to Ed is in Morgantown. Not worth an all-day drive.  :(
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Re: The New Northern Central
« Reply #427 on: April 27, 2021, 02:35:04 PM »
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Agreed, but closest Menards to Ed is in Morgantown. Not worth an all-day drive.  :(

If priuces stay this high I may haul a trailer to Green bay this summer to visit the in-laws so I can load up at Menard's and Fleet Farm.
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Re: The New Northern Central
« Reply #428 on: April 27, 2021, 03:18:49 PM »
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Do you have a Menards where you live?  We got one a few years ago and they have like 3 or 4 grades of lumber where Home Depot just has straight/expensive and curved/cheap.

Nope. But oh man, I wish we did!

I don't know if I'd trade it for Wegmans and Wawa, but I'd happily give you Royal Farms in exchange :D

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Re: The New Northern Central
« Reply #429 on: April 27, 2021, 05:59:02 PM »
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Have you seen plywood prices lately? Its not any better in that aisle.

Doing the math, you can cut eleven 4" "stringers" from a sheet of 4x8 plywood.  We lose one due to the kerf of the cutting blade.  These would be 8 ft long instead of the 6' ones for $9.50 each.  Even if the ply is $75 a sheet (which I don't think it is), that's less than $6.80 a stringer and they are two feet longer than the 6' ones.  Granted the pine might be a little stiffer but I think these will be used to tie things together.

Of course if Ed doesn't want to deal with the cutting then that's another story.  Convenience vs. savings.   :D

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Re: The New Northern Central
« Reply #430 on: April 27, 2021, 06:45:32 PM »
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Doing the math, you can cut eleven 4" "stringers" from a sheet of 4x8 plywood.  We lose one due to the kerf of the cutting blade.  These would be 8 ft long instead of the 6' ones for $9.50 each.  Even if the ply is $75 a sheet (which I don't think it is), that's less than $6.80 a stringer and they are two feet longer than the 6' ones.  Granted the pine might be a little stiffer but I think these will be used to tie things together.

Of course if Ed doesn't want to deal with the cutting then that's another story.  Convenience vs. savings.   :D

If you cut them to 3.5" to equal the actual size of a standard 1x4 then you should get 13 (48/3.5=13.7) with just a smidge left over. Making that around $5.77/stringer.
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Re: The New Northern Central
« Reply #431 on: April 27, 2021, 08:21:54 PM »
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If you cut them to 3.5" to equal the actual size of a standard 1x4 then you should get 13 (48/3.5=13.7) with just a smidge left over. Making that around $5.77/stringer.

I like it!  Better math!  :D

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Re: The New Northern Central
« Reply #432 on: April 28, 2021, 09:07:07 AM »
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If you cut them to 3.5" to equal the actual size of a standard 1x4 then you should get 13 (48/3.5=13.7) with just a smidge left over. Making that around $5.77/stringer.

Do you even need a 3-1/2" width stringer?  At the distance that Ed is spanning, wouldn't a 3" or even a 2-1/2" width piece of plywood suffice?  You'd bring the cost per stringer down even more.

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Re: The New Northern Central
« Reply #433 on: April 28, 2021, 09:24:15 AM »
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You need the 3-1/2" if Tortoise switch machines are used. Otherwise, they hang below the benchwork.
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Re: The New Northern Central
« Reply #434 on: April 28, 2021, 09:47:29 AM »
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You need the 3-1/2" if Tortoise switch machines are used. Otherwise, they hang below the benchwork.

Good point, but that's what fascia is for!